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Gibroni 01-25-2013 07:38 PM

SS or 1LE for a daily driver
 
If you're never going to autocross is it still worth getting the 1LE option?

NinoSS 01-25-2013 07:53 PM

1LE... It's just an SS but better. Unless you want an auto, frankly im not sure who would buy this car without this option.

JimE 01-25-2013 07:53 PM

Personal preference. Many of the components on the 1LE were on my list of mods anyway, so getting a 1LE is actuallly cheaper.

NinoSS 01-25-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimE (Post 6083342)
Personal preference. Many of the components on the 1LE were on my list of mods anyway, so getting a 1LE is actuallly cheaper.

My car likely will perform similar to a 1LE, except I spent a lot more to get there... :rolleyes:

The 1LE is a bargain!!!

FINALLYSATISFIED 01-25-2013 08:36 PM

1LE would have been my DD but if I wanted to autocross, I could also. I had actually planned to do that at CF4.

Dtowndog420 01-25-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NinoSS (Post 6083339)
1LE... It's just an SS but better. Unless you want an auto, frankly im not sure who would buy this car without this option.

Yes sir I agree. It's a real bargain. You'll spend almost twice as much just to get close.

Dynabyte 01-25-2013 08:40 PM

I have a 1LE on order and it will be my daily driver, currently have a '11 2SS. The transmission, rear-end and rims/tires are completely worth it - even if I don't track it (for a while). The suspension bits and Alcantra steering wheel/shifter are gravy. Some reviews have stated that the ride is stiffer - well, that's par for the course. They also say that the 1LE option is for the 1-2% who want to race it - honestly I don't agree with this. For $3500 you get alot of goodies for your money that you would prolly spend anyways once the mod-bug hits :) Anyone who orders a SS should seriously consider this package -

Ryne @ CMS 01-25-2013 08:41 PM

i just received my 1le and its vastly better then a regular ss, definitely get a 1le

Blueclyde 01-25-2013 09:18 PM

If I were in the market for an SS it would without a doubt be a 1LE.

tramtwo 01-25-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibroni (Post 6083281)
If you're never going to autocross is it still worth getting the 1LE option?

In a word yes. The 1LE performance package is a MUST for the LS3 equipped SS Camaro.

Better transmission (comes with cooler) and short throw shifter, better half shafts, better fuel pump and additional pick ups, better final drive gearing, better wheels and tires, better end links and wheel bearings, better front and rear stabilizer bars, front splitter and rear spoiler designed to produce down force, better steering wheel. Sure I am forgetting something

The 1LE is also a half second faster to 60 and in the quarter. :thumbsup:

For 3500 dollars?! Best performance deal ever!! :headbang:

I like the ride quality, the improved damping absorbs the bumps without transmitting them through the body too much. The FE6 is a better ride than my 2011.

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Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS (Post 6083540)
i just received my 1le and its vastly better then a regular ss, definitely get a 1le

Congratz on the new ride!! :thumbsup:

Fraxum 01-25-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6083717)
In a word yes. The 1LE performance package is a MUST for the LS3 equipped SS Camaro.

Better transmission (comes with cooler) and short throw shifter, better half shafts, better fuel pump and additional pick ups, better final drive gearing, better wheels and tires, better end links and wheel bearings, better front and rear stabilizer bars, front splitter and rear spoiler designed to produce down force, better steering wheel. Sure I am forgetting something

The 1LE is also a half second faster to 60 and in the quarter. :thumbsup:

For 3500 dollars?! Best performance deal ever!! :headbang:

I like the ride quality, the improved damping absorbs the bumps without transmitting them through the body too much. The FE6 is a better ride than my 2011.

Congratz on the new ride!! :thumbsup:

+1 on that the 1LE s worth it if you value performance over comfort. Not so sure about the half second though.

tramtwo 01-25-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraxum (Post 6083809)
+1 on that the 1LE s worth it if you value performance over comfort. Not so sure about the half second though.

This is a conformable ride there is nothing harsh about it at all.

12.7 in the quarter. :confused0068:

shawn18 01-25-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6083877)
This is a conformable ride there is nothing harsh about it at all.

12.7 in the quarter. :confused0068:

I was thinking the same thing when I read "performance over comfort". I think the ride is firm but not bad at all. It rides a ton better than my 11' SS did with lowering springs on it.

Gibroni 01-25-2013 10:08 PM

Thanks for the answers and I agree with most, if not all of your points. $3500 is a bargain for what you get.

tramtwo 01-25-2013 10:14 PM

If budget was a concern I would get a 1SS w/ 1LE and npp as apposed to a 2SS/RS. The 1LE package is THAT good.

shawn18 01-25-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6083935)
If budget was a concern I would get a 1SS w/ 1LE and npp as apposed to a 2SS/RS. The 1LE package is THAT good.

^^^^^Agreed 1000%

CrystalRedTintcoat 01-25-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6083935)
If budget was a concern I would get a 1SS w/ 1LE and npp as apposed to a 2SS/RS. The 1LE package is THAT good.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Fraxum 01-25-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6083877)
This is a conformable ride there is nothing harsh about it at all.

12.7 in the quarter. :confused0068:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

12.9 for a 2010 SS

That 12.7 is a good number, no argument there. But to pick up 1/2 of a second in the quarter, much less 0 to 60, requires more than the difference the tires make. Probably most of that difference is in the stickier tires and a couple pounds less of unsprung weight. I would like to see back to back 60 foot times by the same driver in both an SS and a 1LE.

I know the gearing is different, but with the transmission changes the overall gearing is roughly the same. And both the SS and 1LE will benefit from the optional exhaust and electric power steering.

tramtwo 01-25-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraxum (Post 6084055)
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

12.9 for a 2010 SS

That 12.7 is a good number, no argument there. But to pick up 1/2 of a second in the quarter, much less 0 to 60, requires more than the difference the tires make. Probably most of that difference is in the stickier tires and a couple pounds less of unsprung weight. I would like to see back to back 60 foot times by the same driver in both an SS and a 1LE.

I know the gearing is different, but with the transmission changes the overall gearing is roughly the same. And both the SS and 1LE will benefit from the optional exhaust and electric power steering.

I'd like to see a heads up comparison as well. The gearing on paper is close but I tell you this car drives way different than the 2011 SS I had.. It feels quicker and is.

I also think that there is less parasitic loss through this drivetrain. I have nothing but a gut feeling to base that on. There is no hesitation when you mash the peddle.

Fun times to be into cars for sure! :headbang:

Dtowndog420 01-26-2013 11:32 AM

I just hope it doesn't rise in price before I have a chance to get mine in 2 years or they discontinue it. 2015 is my time frame just before the 6th gen hits the streets. No matter how much better the 6th will be it'll still have teething problems due to it being an all new model from the ground up. I still would want this one plus the track packs and new additions want be released for a few years after initial release. This camaro brother has waited long enough.

shawn18 01-26-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtowndog420 (Post 6085461)
I just hope it doesn't rise in price before I have a chance to get mine in 2 years or they discontinue it. 2015 is my time frame just before the 6th gen hits the streets. No matter how much better the 6th will be it'll still have teething problems due to it being an all new model from the ground up. I still would want this one plus the track packs and new additions want be released for a few years after initial release. This camaro brother has waited long enough.

Well if you wind up with the 5th gen 1LE. I think you will be more than pleased with it. It really is a great bargain and a blast to drive!!

SSm1le 01-26-2013 04:01 PM

my 2 pennies, the package is amazing. Wheels/tires look great on a camaro, and depending on the color the hood/front splitter/diffuser really set off the car. Have had mine for 4 days now and had many people admire my camaro. My roommate has a camaro and he even likes mine better. Besides look, performance and sound of the npp is amazing. And for comfort, I don't agree with any of these posts. I have some ROUGH roads here(being near Meh-hi-co) and I don't even notice it. Leather interior is beautiful and luxuriously comfortable. Go for the 1LE, won't regret it.


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