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The Baron 03-06-2013 06:45 PM

gm says FIFTH gen refresh will be at ...
 
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

90503 03-06-2013 06:51 PM

..........o......k........

Captain Awesome 03-06-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6254148)
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..



http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

You DO if the refresh consists of parts-bin taillights and trim bits.

FINALLYSATISFIED 03-06-2013 06:51 PM

Repost, already stated in the 5th Gen section.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

Forty5th 03-06-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6254148)
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

Repost but here's my 3 cents...

Ford did a refresh on the Mustang (for current '13 model) and a new generation will be out for the '15 model year. I wouldn't rule out Chevy's plan for the Camaro.

I plan to go to the upcoming NY auto show since I'll be in the NJ/NY area... I guess I'll see firsthand. http://rumors.automobilemag.com/conf...#axzz2MmpWAtJe

KMPrenger 03-06-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6254148)
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..



http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

Ford did a nice refresh for 2013....their new car is coming for 2015.

This isn't the mid 90s anymore. You have to stay competitive...keeping the cars exciting is how you do it.

Your statement doesn't hold water.

daveagogo1 03-06-2013 07:49 PM

Not true at all. They could easily slap on a slightly different front fascia, rear, rockers, mirrors, wheels, interior stuff. Without changing any metal.

soloknight6 03-06-2013 07:51 PM

LS7. Its going to look like this:
http://tysongamblin.files.wordpress....ro-3.jpg?w=655

http://tysongamblin.files.wordpress....ro-1.jpg?w=655

GM already has the parts in stock. A refresh means the 5th gen is on the way out the door.

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6254148)
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..



http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281276

...define refresh....

Lawdog1911 03-06-2013 08:00 PM

Maybe they will use the Camaro I seen at a gas station for a Camaro giveaway. Had the quad foglights?

This fascia
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w...psf929f3ed.jpg

ShnOmac 03-06-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by soloknight6 (Post 6254506)
LS7. Its going to look like this:

GM already has the parts in stock. A refresh means the 5th gen is on the way out the door.

That's the "Jay Leno" Camaro from 2009......

90503 03-06-2013 08:01 PM

...Don't think this "re-fresh" will be much more than show-casing a few minor changes or upgrades similar to what's already happened with the '12s and '13s...(a new rear view mirror, back-up camera, etc.)...Doubt it will be anything major like an engine option or engine change...

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6254568)
...Don't think this "re-fresh" will be much more than show-casing a few minor changes or upgrades similar to what's already happened with the '12s and '13s...(a new rear view mirror, back-up camera, etc.)...Doubt it will be anything major like an engine option or engine change...

...exactly, fluff, not stuff.....those expecting more or reading into it beyond any measure will be dissapointed. Wait till 2015 for the real refresh to happen.

soloknight6 03-06-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShnOmac (Post 6254567)
That's the "Jay Leno" Camaro from 2009......

I know that lol, the parts are there. GM would be dumb not to utilize them.

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by soloknight6 (Post 6254616)
I know that lol, the parts are there. It would be dumb on GMs part not to utilize them.

...have you not realized by now not to try to use one's own logic to determine what they should do? If you scratch your head long enough to contemplate it you will develop male pattern baldness. :biggrin:

soloknight6 03-06-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6254646)
...have you not realized by now not to try to you use one's own logic to determine what they should do? If you scratch your head long enough to contemplate it you will develop male pattern baldness. :biggrin:

That was a tough read. I'm scratching my head just figuring out what you were trying to say. :bellyroll:

Bhobbs 03-06-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by soloknight6 (Post 6254506)
LS7. Its going to look like this:
http://tysongamblin.files.wordpress....ro-3.jpg?w=655

http://tysongamblin.files.wordpress....ro-1.jpg?w=655

GM already has the parts in stock. A refresh means the 5th gen is on the way out the door.

I like that look. Make the vents on the hood functional, DRLs LEDs on the outside of blackened section and functional brake ducts on the inside. NPP instead of that exhaust they are using.

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 08:35 PM

Soloknight6...the parts have been there for along time to utilze them into a platform as you allude to, the thing is it's a reoccuring theme with the same result....parts stay in the bin....with no futherence of a performance goal in mind, other than a corporate introduction of a model or design based on long term use, with no change within, rather visionary shorter term upgrades with a goal in mind to beat the competition on a micro level, rather than a slow changing macro approach.

soloknight6 03-06-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs (Post 6254778)
I like that look. Make the vents on the hood functional, DRLs LEDs on the outside of blackened section and functional brake ducts on the inside. NPP instead of that exhaust they are using.

I dont know if they would retool the parts they already have. But I like your ideas. The reason I think the refreshed camaros will look like the Leno concept, is because the diffuser, fascia, and hood all had part numbers. They were in the system for a short time, then they disappeared.

FenwickHockey65 03-06-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Baron (Post 6254148)
So much fir all you guys saying that the gen 6 is going to be out in 15-16.. you DO NOT do a refresh and then build new model in one or two years..



http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...york-auto-show

Of course you do. In fact that's par for the course. The only reason to do a scheduled refresh is to keep the existing product relevant for another year or so until a new model is ready.

90503 03-06-2013 08:40 PM

They've already made plans to move the car's production to another plant...can't see any major additions or changes until after that move is completed...

soloknight6 03-06-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6254799)
...the parts have been there for along time to utilze them into a platform as you allude to, the thing is it's a reoccuring theme with the same result....parts stay in the bin....with no futherence of a performance goal in mind, other than a corporate introduction of a model or design based on long term use, with no change within, rather visionary shorter term upgrades with a goal in mind to beat the competition on a micro level, rather than a slow changing macro approach.

Speak plain, and with less commas. :biggrin:
All they are doing is a cosmetic refresh, with the possibility of introducing a very limited LS7 variant. When the 1LE was released, it used parts taken from the "Bin." The LENO camaro concept's front splitter was used, as well as the LENO rocker panels (Also seen on the latter ZL1). If GM is doing a cosmetic refresh, I am certain they would use parts that already exist on a concept. I think it would be silly for them to tool new cosmetic pieces. A big waste of money, and time. Paying designers and engineers to create a new front bumper/hood/whatever they end up doing; or go with the parts used on the Leno and TF3 car? Shouldn't be a tough decision.
If they want to update the 5th gens look at the end of its run... They already have the parts... And they have alredy used them on production cars (1LE & ZL1)... Thats all Im saying.
http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/att...1289863258.jpg
http://cdn.carsroute.com/wp-content/...aro-SEMA-1.jpg
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/cro...e-2_600x0w.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ro-zl1-opt.jpg

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by soloknight6 (Post 6254811)
I dont know if they would retool the parts they already have. But I like your ideas. The reason I think the refreshed camaros will look like the Leno concept, is because the diffuser, fascia, and hood all had part numbers. They were in the system for a short time, then they disappeared.

...you will probably be sorely dissapointed if you believe that, refresh is code word for fluff....nothing will be retooled, tools and dies will press,cut, and stamp out parts as before in large, some accoutrements will be added....

soloknight6 03-06-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro (Post 6254858)
...you will probably be sorely dissapointed if you believe that, refresh is code word for fluff....nothing will be retooled, tools and dies will press,cut, and stamp out parts as before in large, some accoutrements will be added....

Thats what im trying to say... We are having trouble communicating lol. Im saying they will use already existing parts. Like the Leno front fascia, the Leno hood, etc. To retool anything would be stupid financially.

OldScoolCamaro 03-06-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soloknight6 (Post 6254912)
Thats what im trying to say... We are having trouble communicating lol. Im saying they will use already existing parts. Like the Leno front fascia, the Leno hood, etc. To retool anything would be stupid financially.

LOL, if we actually talked together we more than likely would understand each others point.....:biggrin:. So much for forums, written text, and the internet. Cheers! :peace:


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