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brt3 03-27-2013 11:14 PM

Poll: will you be ordering a Z/28 -- and will you track it?
 
A lot of folks are questioning the Z/28's very direct focus on track usage. So, I decided to throw a little poll into the mix. I realize you can't formally order these cars yet, but I'm first on my dealer's list. Here goes...

CHMSC 03-27-2013 11:34 PM

If I bought one I would track it, but I am not buying one.

Red Rocker 03-27-2013 11:39 PM

If you buy one of these beasts, you must track it. Don't think I'll buy one though. I think I'll grab a used ZL1.

brt3 03-28-2013 11:50 PM

Just for the record, I will be tracking mine about 75% of the time. Another 20% will be driving to the track. The remaining 5% will be pleasure use on the street...

gmen09 03-28-2013 11:59 PM

If I could buy one I would take it to te track as much as possible!!! But I really would love to drive it everwhere.

stratman2SSRS 03-29-2013 12:28 AM

I'm not getting one unless they fix the stick on fender flares.

brt3 03-30-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SQUALO (Post 6353141)
Poll: will you be ordering a Z/28?


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I'm just not feeling the love around here... :biggrin:

29er 03-30-2013 01:48 PM

if i'm lucky enough to have one..i would go one time or two. that's it.
since i'm poor, that would be my dd, except winter.

Cap'n Pete 03-31-2013 07:49 PM

Not that I'm in a position to buy one right now, but if I were, I'd DEFINITELY track it ... as much as possible!!! :D But based on my own track record (ha, ha, ha, ............shameless pun!) I only do a handful of track days a year anyway, compared to daily driving whatever car I've got, so even though I voted 20% - 40%, I'd probably be hard pressed to exceed ~20% of the car's driving being on-track.

If I could AFFORD it, the car would be ~60% - 80% track use, but still get plenty of fun street miles in too ;).

360ss 03-31-2013 08:09 PM

I already have 4 cars in my driveway . 5 will just enhance the driveway "not itentionally bragging, Rather informing" and hell yeah I'm tracking . Not to mention The huge activity that takes place here at least 1 a month . I'll just park it outside someone's venue for stares and pics.

Splat 04-01-2013 12:07 AM

If I bought 1, I would track the hell out her.

sho928 04-01-2013 06:23 AM

I already have 5-cars, I have no case for getting a 6th DD car unless it is only for my track hobby.

Thus the Z28 would be on dedicated race rubber (1/2 the cost) trailered to track.

My justification to my wife would be to have fail safe brakes when going 140-mph (she is not interested in me getting a $ 1-mil insurance policy instead)

Forty5th 04-01-2013 07:06 AM

Maybe, maybe

mkorgan 04-01-2013 07:46 AM

So, I will be the odd one here. I would buy one and hold on to it (a few cruise weekends here and there but no track).

My reason: I have a strong feeling that we are in a very short window of a muscle car renaissance. With the CAFE standards coming in a couple years and GM stating this is going to be a limited production run Camaro, this may be a car worth having a 4-5 years when the only thing you can get in a Camaro is a turbo 6cyl that looks like it belongs in a Toyota.

If the COPO would have been street legal (and they made a few more than 69 of them) I would have been in line for that for the same reason. Cars are most always a horrible investment but this one MIGHT be different.

mechanic1 04-01-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mkorgan (Post 6366359)
So, I will be the odd one here. I would buy one and hold on to it (a few cruise weekends here and there but no track).

My reason: I have a strong feeling that we are in a very short window of a muscle car renaissance. With the CAFE standards coming in a couple years and GM stating this is going to be a limited production run Camaro, this may be a car worth having a 4-5 years when the only thing you can get in a Camaro is a turbo 6cyl that looks like it belongs in a Toyota.

If the COPO would have been street legal (and they made a few more than 69 of them) I would have been in line for that for the same reason. Cars are most always a horrible investment but this one MIGHT be different.

very good call on the short window for REAL PERFORMANCE..........many dont see it coming, or rather refuse to look at it...thats likely why GM is throwing everything out on the market but the kitchen sink...since i have the zl1 i wont bother trading in to a z28, but if i didnt have one i would sure snag something..........unless your ok in the future with 6's, 4's and 10 speed trannys

sho928 04-01-2013 08:43 AM

Great web page Forty5th, I enjoyed the vids!
It is interesting that the SS 1LE has better track times than the Boss302 despite a higher power to weight ratio.
The sound of 5.0 at 7500-rpm however does much to add to the fun factor of the Boss package.
Mkorgen, your strong feelings will be fact, even now prices for v-8 muscle cars are intentionally high in order to limit supply to allow more econo boxes to be sold to keep up corporate fuel average.
To me cars are tools to be used (to get from point A to point B) or to have fun in (muscle cars).
It would be my choice to take an extra 20% hit on resale for a high track mile car.
Besides fellow club racers would find it a great deal since very few will actually push the envelope on the likes of a ZL1 or Z28 (having dry sump and superior brakes makes all the difference in wear and tear)
Money, you can't take it with you, enjoy it and die broke.

Forty5th 04-01-2013 08:57 AM

^ Thanks! I love all these types of muscle/pony cars for what they are... not necessarily who's faster than what, etc. I used to have two GTOs back in the day and there are/will always be faster & more powerful ones than even the mighty goat... fast forward to today and the SS, 1LE, ZL1, Z/28, and even the LFX will give all the classic muclecars a run for their money. Our technology and advancement nowdays are hands down worth it, IMO, especailly safety wise. And I'm glad GM gives us plenty of choices through their performance cars spectrum.

BTW, on Chevrolet's site... there's this footnote:

"PREPARE FOR DEPARTURE
Chevrolet surprised the world and introduced this ground-shaking vision of American performance, available Fall 2014."

woodside783 04-01-2013 09:24 AM

If I get one I will track the hell out of it. Atlanta motorsports park and barbar are just about 3 hours away so my weekends will be full of fun

brt3 04-01-2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkorgan (Post 6366359)
...I have a strong feeling that we are in a very short window of a muscle car renaissance. With the CAFE standards coming in a couple years and GM stating this is going to be a limited production run Camaro, this may be a car worth having a 4-5 years when the only thing you can get in a Camaro is a turbo 6cyl that looks like it belongs in a Toyota...

You are correct on this. Big block, large displacement, naturally aspirated engines are dinosaurs. Sad, but true. The impending regulations, which will only get worse, mean that manufacturers will only be able to sell small numbers of increasingly specialized (read: expensive) versions of these cars down the road. I'm not happy with that, but those are the facts...
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Originally Posted by sho928 (Post 6366499)
...Besides fellow club racers would find it a great deal since very few will actually push the envelope on the likes of a ZL1 or Z28 (having dry sump and superior brakes makes all the difference in wear and tear)
Money, you can't take it with you, enjoy it and die broke.

One reason I'm doing more track driving -- and wanting a Z/28 to greatly increase my track time even further -- is because I recently lost a friend to pancreatic cancer. Sorry, I'm not mentioning that to sound morose, but we don't have long on this Great Blue Marble. Best to enjoy it to the max, and I no longer have any use for a Garage Queen. If I wear my Z/28 out and its resale value decreases, have I lost money? Hell, no! How do you put a value on the joy you get from using a car like this at it's limit, on the track?!?

camarosss 04-02-2013 09:35 AM

No tracking here, I'm one for preserving and keep it pristine as possible. My ZL1 has 18 miles on it and only had 17 when I bought it. I get the first Z/28 coming to my dealer.

delphigto 04-02-2013 08:27 PM

Ya if I bought one I would track it. Not going to buy one inless it was less than a zl1. Would rather build a 2ss and be faster for that much money.

FINALLYSATISFIED 04-02-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by camarosss (Post 6371429)
No tracking here, I'm one for preserving and keep it pristine as possible. My ZL1 has 18 miles on it and only had 17 when I bought it. I get the first Z/28 coming to my dealer.

Life is too short to let rides sit and collect dust. :(

360ss 04-02-2013 09:04 PM

Great blue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brt3 (Post 6370267)
You are correct on this. Big block, large displacement, naturally aspirated engines are dinosaurs. Sad, but true. The impending regulations, which will only get worse, mean that manufacturers will only be able to sell small numbers of increasingly specialized (read: expensive) versions of these cars down the road. I'm not happy with that, but those are the facts...

One reason I'm doing more track driving -- and wanting a Z/28 to greatly increase my track time even further -- is because I recently lost a friend to pancreatic cancer. Sorry, I'm not mentioning that to sound morose, but we don't have long on this Great Blue Marble. Best to enjoy it to the max, and I no longer have any use for a Garage Queen. If I wear my Z/28 out and its resale value decreases, have I lost money? Hell, no! How do you put a value on the joy you get from using a car like this at it's limit, on the track?!?

Not to mention recent disasters that's been occurring lately, several friends including my father lost garage queens . All the years of pampering and 1 terrible day u lose it all . Live today cause tomorrow ain't promised

SumWhite1LE 04-02-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED (Post 6374285)
Life is too short to let rides sit and collect dust. :(


AMEN!!!!:thumb:

chilihed 04-04-2013 10:52 AM

I'm #2 on the list at my dealer. Probably won't track it. I agree with the post above about being in a limited window for very high performance American muscle.


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