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DRKS1D3 03-28-2013 06:27 AM

Upwards of $75k for the Z-28???
 
At first, I was thinking the Z-28 may be in the $50k price range, but then GM said it would be above the ZL1 in the "Camaro Tier". Some are speculating a $70-75k price tag on this thing. I just think that's too much for a Camaro. Don't get me wrong, this thing looks BAD :thumbup:, but it's a stripped down track car. No AC, one speaker and other amentities are minimal at best. I mean, the original Z-28's in the 60's were basically the same thing, but when you could buy a new car off the showroom floor for $3,000, GM didn't price the Z-28 at $12,000. I hope GM doesn't price this beast out of the stratosphere. For that price, I'd buy a ZL1 and save some cash.:chevy:

LoneCynic 03-28-2013 06:54 AM

Yeah, my hopes were pretty much slain the moment I read that it would be in that range. There's no way possible I could swing that, not in time to even get a 2015. So, I suppose it is off to plan B, which is a 1LE, which is looking ever more the bargain now.

Wizard1183 03-28-2013 06:55 AM

It'll be high. I thought no way it's more than a ZL-1 since its stripped. But since only a handful of ppl will buy them the price will be gouged along with your eyeballs. If they made it 45k, a LOT would be sold. But gov motors doesn't want a ton of these on the road. Some will become garage queens, some racers and a very small percent will be daily drivers. Kind of like those that ride a chopper motorcycle. It's not made for everyone.

stikSS 03-28-2013 07:01 AM

I'm trying to feel way around the Camaro landscape and I can't come up with a anything as to why the Z28 will be so much more expensive..... considering over the last few years GM has tried to provide the best for less which is what they've done.

ZL-1 is a beast of a car and with a mid to high 50 price is very good in my opinion, and the 1LE is the same for it's price.... so why does the Z need to be so high? It's not like it's all new from the ground up. The only thing I can figure is there is alot more to this car that hasn't been told yet... obviously we can see whats there, but there has to be more for it carry a 70k sticker.

DRKS1D3 03-28-2013 07:05 AM

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I'm coming to the conclusion that this car is going to be like the Cobra-R in 2000 from Ford. Limited production, expensive, not your everyday driver, track car. :facepalm: What do you think?

StephenS_84 03-28-2013 07:06 AM

Where is your proof? Or is this just your opinion on what the price tag will be?

nyrfan 03-28-2013 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DRKS1D3 (Post 6347519)
I'm coming to the conclusion that this car is going to be like the Cobra-R in 2000 from Ford. Limited production, expensive, not your everyday driver, track car. :facepalm: What do you think?

That is exactly what I think.


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DRKS1D3 03-28-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenS_84 (Post 6347524)
Where is your proof? Or is this just your opinion on what the price tag will be?

GM already said it WILL be the top-tier Camaro (above the $60k ZL1).

rayhawk 03-28-2013 07:07 AM

If the carbon brakes are standard, then I think it will start at about $65-70k, maybe more. They are targeting a very limited market with this car, even smaller than the ZL1. I think of it more like a halo car for the Camaro brand. The ZL1 is definitely going to be the better street car IMO.

2010_5thgen 03-28-2013 07:15 AM

this car is meant to compete with the BOSS 302 right? I really hope its not over zl1 price.....but it sounds like gm is planning on it by saying its top dog and better than the zl1. the ole, less is more thing.

DRKS1D3 03-28-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen (Post 6347546)
this car is meant to compete with the BOSS 302 right? I really hope its not over zl1 price.....but it sounds like gm is planning on it by saying its top dog and better than the zl1. the ole, less is more thing.

It was speculation that it would be made to compete with the BOSS (as well it should have been). With the LS7, ceramic brakes and other goodies, I simply think GM put this into an exclusive, expensive, very limited, class of its own. :confused:

joeybsyc 03-28-2013 07:32 AM

When they were introducing it at the unveil and saying how it was much lighter, and 3 seconds quicker than the ZL1... Well that wasn't because they were planning to sell it for less than the ZL1. Just saying. 75k isn't even gonna be enough to buy the first ones to hit showrooms.

Mikes SS 03-28-2013 07:38 AM

Well all those nutjobs got what they wanted!! I am really disappointed, because I am one of those, I kept saying that if they put the LS7 in the Camaro it would cost ZL1 money and everyone scoffed!! If they really wanted it to be true to heritage, they would have built a motor for it, and engine no bigger than a 5.7L..again you guys will say hey that costs money to do that, but what are you paying for now? How much money do you think went into the development of this car to begin with!!?? I am sad that I waited so long and had hope, but I will never be able to sit in one let alone purchase one. I will have better luck finding a '68 Z/28 and restoring that, or hell even buying a body in white and starting from scratch...well wait a minute I can't do that because it would be illegal to drive on the street, even to go to a car show! The thing is, all those Damn over stock LS7's are sitting in a warhouse and they had to go into something and GM knew that, if my opinion were worth a crap, and they really wanted to use the LS7 all along, they should have started with the 1SS/1LE and added the LS7. They went all out to put this thing out of the hands of many buyers and that sucks. Am I whining? Of course, but I don't need carbon ceramic brakes and improved ground effects to 210MPH and shell out 60K just to have some fun around a track 2-3 times a year. Very sad day, sorry had to get it out.

gm_joe 03-28-2013 07:43 AM

If this car is priced at $75k, then GM will disapoint many camaro followers. people have been anticipating the return of the Z/28 badge since the camaro was reintroduced. Personally, I was thinking that GM would use the Z/28 to fill the $18k gap between the 1LE and ZL1. If that happens, they will sell a lot of cars.

Skidpuppy 03-28-2013 07:51 AM

GM stated that they don't anticipate selling many, and I quote "Alan Batey, General Motors' U.S. sales chief, said the company doesn't expect to sell a lot of Z/28s, but the car does bring back some of the brand's heritage from days when it dominated U.S. roads. You don't do this because of how many you're going to sell. You do this because of the statement it can make and the way it can build the brand," he said.

If it was cheap(er), everyone would have one.

Mikes SS 03-28-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skidpuppy (Post 6347666)
GM stated that they don't anticipate selling many, and I quote "Alan Batey, General Motors' U.S. sales chief, said the company doesn't expect to sell a lot of Z/28s, but the car does bring back some of the brand's heritage from days when it dominated U.S. roads."

If it was cheap(er), everyone would have one.

Ha ha well to argue that point, the only reason back in the late 60's there wasn't a such thing as the internet and a lot of people had no idea what the "Z28" option was and that's why they didn't sell many of them. It wasn't because it wasn't affordable to many. Does the new Z/28 bring back credibility to the Chevy brand...absolutely, they went all out, but also it will put a bad taste in many "enthusiasts" mouths because they can't afford to go out and get one. This car was only built to be able to read about it in magazines and such. This car will not dominate U.S. roads because it will not be on them, it will dominate at the track because that is the only place it will be feasible to drive it on(after you trailer it there!)

Mikes SS 03-28-2013 08:19 AM

Simply put, the car should have started its life as an option only car as it was then. If you want carbon ceramic brakes, fine pay for it..if you don't want onstar, radio, a/c, power this and that, awesome! Standard engine could have been the LS7(or my humble opinion it's own engine) fine, no RS package avail, etc. Just starting it at less is more is just plain silly. These are basically COPO cars that are street legal.

stikSS 03-28-2013 08:20 AM

Somewhere on this site.... yesterday I looked on tapatalk and it was stated by Fbodfather that with CAFE standards... the high performance big motors cars are gonna come with a premuim. Thats out of the hands of GM unless they ditch the HP to make it affordable to everyone.... but who wants a 240 hp turbo 4 cyl Camaro?

It was also stated in that same post, that if people are looking for that high performance car that can race and streetable.... then buy the ZL-1.. The Z28 is built for the track and is not the practical daily car. I can't put quotation marks on it because I don't remember the exact wording but it was very similar to that.

90503 03-28-2013 08:41 AM

Try pricing an LS7 crate motor and drop it into your SS or 1LE...and be prepared for sticker shock...lol...

Believe it or not, it is actually more expensive and time-consuming to delete items off the assembly line, than to just include them...Different times, different mind-set these days...

I would love to see engine options in less expensive models, but it's not gonna happen at the factory...I say give it a few years, get a cheap used SS, strip it down, put in an LS7...then you'll have a more streetable car "similar" to the Z/28...

I think it's a miracle they even built a car like this in today's world, but hang on...perhaps "demand" just might get us an LS7 in an SS before it's all over...

Nothing can come close to the true factory Z/28 they built, but we may see the benefits of it somehow in other models...

Mikes SS 03-28-2013 08:46 AM

Yeah and believe it or not, an LS7 option in a 2SS/1LE will be a hell of a lot cheaper than the Z/28 and will track pretty damn close to the same. I would venture to guess there would be less than a second difference. I still don't get that the engine and brakes are the biggest performers of this car, not the weight difference and you can add an awesome comparable brake package for less than 3k.

90503 03-28-2013 08:54 AM

I think all this "track" business, and what it takes to really do it, is pretty much pipe-dream and out of reach for most of us financially...Look how they debuted the Z/28 and the rest of the Performance line-up...I think they were serious this time...lol, and it's not just a track it if you want to, but mostly drive on the street type of car like all the other models...

jamison90 03-28-2013 09:01 AM

Z/28 to be the most expensive camaro offered
 
"GM did not announce pricing, but Reuss said it will be the most expensive Camaro offered. The Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 – the brand’s current most expensive Camaro -- starts at about $55,000"

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/..._river_default

meissen 03-28-2013 09:18 AM

That's definitely a bummer - but the hand-built LS7 isn't cheap, nor is the suspension. I was reading another article on GMAuthority.com that said the suspension on the Z28 is only offered on one other production car... an Aston Martin with a starting MSRP of $1.5 million...

Apex Motorsports 03-28-2013 09:20 AM

With the LS7, forged wheels, carbon ceramic brakes, Recaro seats, and some of the other unique tweaks of course it will be. All of those things are $$$.

Cangt77 03-28-2013 09:22 AM

Any guesses?


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