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epkmvuoq 03-28-2013 07:51 PM

Quarter mile
 
2014 z28 vs zl1 quarter mile ?

90503 03-28-2013 07:58 PM

....that's a good one...haven't seen any numbers on that anywhere yet...good call...

They did say it's "three seconds faster"...lol...j/k!!!!

Stephen12ZL1 03-28-2013 08:02 PM

lighter so similar power to weight...we all know how well that 7.0 LS7 runs in a Z06. My bet is 11.8@120 in a magazine test. Real world on a fast track will put it in the 11.5 range.

epkmvuoq 03-28-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6351235)
....that's a good one...haven't seen any numbers on that anywhere yet...good call...

They did say it's "three seconds faster"...lol...j/k!!!!

I would love to have some idea. 300 pounds lighter than zl1 !!!!!!!!!!

epkmvuoq 03-28-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1 (Post 6351256)
lighter so similar power to weight...we all know how well that 7.0 LS7 runs in a Z06. My bet is 11.8@120 in a magazine test. Real world on a fast track will put it in the 11.5 range.

11.5 sounds pretty good !!!

motorhead 03-28-2013 08:07 PM

300 lbs lighter vs 80 more ponies. I would be that they are pretty close. Anybody know what gears the Z/28 will have?

90503 03-28-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by epkmvuoq (Post 6351262)
I would love to have some idea. 300 pounds lighter than zl1 !!!!!!!!!!

I dunno...I'd have to give the edge to 580 hp over 500...My old rule of thumb is hp always adds to top end speed...but who knows...lol...

motorhead 03-28-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6351290)
I dunno...I'd have to give the edge to 580 hp over 500...My old rule of thumb is hp always adds to top end speed...but who knows...lol...

That rule of thumb only works when comparing cars with close to the same weight and other factors.

Just look at how fast the Z06 does with the LS7 because it's so light.

Blueclyde 03-28-2013 08:11 PM

3.91:1. These cars will be close at the drag strip. My bet is the ZL1 with Auto trans should walk it. Unless they bump up a lot over 500 HP, the ZL1 will have better power to weight.

The Z/28 isn't meant for the drag strip. Neither is the ZL1 for that matter.

Number 3 03-28-2013 08:15 PM

7.5% lower weight, 13% less HP.

The Z28 does not exist for the 1/4 mile. It exists or the track. PERIOD. It will be fast for sure down the straight. Just not faster.

Stephen12ZL1 03-28-2013 08:18 PM

I have seen bone stock Z06s run 10.70-10.80@128 at MIR in really good air...amazing because just 505hp vs LS9 powered ZR1 cars run 10.60@132 stock with drag radials. The LS7 is amazing and the gearing in the transmission of the ZR1 hurts the 1/4 mile performance. Lets say the Z28 is 800lbs heavier than the Z06 so we can add .8/8mph approximately to the best Z06 stock runs with perfect traction in great air. That extrapolates to 11.50-11.60@120 with very crude fudge factors assuming similar gearing to the Z06.

Blueclyde 03-28-2013 08:19 PM

Z/28: 3820 lbs/505 HP = 7.56 lbs/HP

ZL1 Coupe: 4120 lbs / 580 HP = 7.1 lbs/HP

Number 3 is correct.

OldScoolCamaro 03-28-2013 08:22 PM

...my take. Milford proving grounds yields a 3 second gain of the Z/28 over the ZL1 per lap as reported by Chevy. I have no idea what the layout is. My thoughts are. A short track, with many tight turns and short straightaways will give the Z/28 an advantage. A bigger track, with wider corners/radiuses and longer straightaways will give the ZL1 the advantage. Inherently, these cars are not designed from the get go for the quarter mile.

2cnd chance 03-28-2013 08:24 PM

According to the calculators it's too close to call.

Blueclyde 03-28-2013 08:30 PM

In cars that will be this close in power to weight it's a driver's race, especially in the M6 ZL1. Edge goes to the Auto, always, in a drag race.

OldScoolCamaro 03-28-2013 08:32 PM

...since the transmisson and rear axle share the same fluid and cooling system, there won't be an automatic tranny....

2cnd chance 03-28-2013 08:33 PM

Yes Blueclyde

16floz470ml 03-28-2013 08:39 PM

Saw this on GM Launch site today.

How fast will the Z/28 be in 0-60? In the quarter mile?
The true performance of the Z/28 will be measured in lap times, not straight-line performance. To preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28, it doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. The new Z/28 is designed to be the most track-capable Camaro ever produced by the factory.

Blueclyde 03-28-2013 08:52 PM

Well there you have. That makes total sense.

hgmjbkfm 03-28-2013 08:55 PM

It will be fast for sure down the straight. Just not faster.

90503 03-28-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 16floz470ml (Post 6351488)
Saw this on GM Launch site today.

How fast will the Z/28 be in 0-60? In the quarter mile?
The true performance of the Z/28 will be measured in lap times, not straight-line performance. To preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28, it doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. The new Z/28 is designed to be the most track-capable Camaro ever produced by the factory.

Well, alrighty then!!...lol...Good info...but don't they always test it in the 0-60, 1/4 mile just as a matter of course anyway?....They do with all other makes and models, I believe...

wnt2gofst 03-28-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16floz470ml (Post 6351488)
Saw this on GM Launch site today.

How fast will the Z/28 be in 0-60? In the quarter mile?
The true performance of the Z/28 will be measured in lap times, not straight-line performance. To preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28, it doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. The new Z/28 is designed to be the most track-capable Camaro ever produced by the factory.

That's just a kick in the nuts to the ZL1 and its owners as a year ago it was the same hype for the ZL1

Just Another 700whp DD 5.0

daveagogo1 03-28-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 16floz470ml (Post 6351488)
Saw this on GM Launch site today.

How fast will the Z/28 be in 0-60? In the quarter mile?
The true performance of the Z/28 will be measured in lap times, not straight-line performance. To preserve the track-focused nature of the Z/28, it doesn’t have the strengthened differential and half shafts of the ZL1, and is not recommended for drag racing. The new Z/28 is designed to be the most track-capable Camaro ever produced by the factory.

Last time i checked my SS doesn't have these either yet is somehow manages to get down the 1320 over and over just fine.

Z/28 with 7000rpm redline minus the same clutch packs and 19" wheels will walk the ZL1 with a driver.

2cnd chance 03-28-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wnt2gofst (Post 6351591)
That's just a kick in the nuts to the ZL1 and its owners as a year ago it was the same hype for the ZL1

Just Another 700whp DD 5.0

Yes that sounds like marketing hype for the way the ZL1 has been designed.

OldScoolCamaro 03-28-2013 09:07 PM

....I am sitting back, just enjoying the proliferation of technology and all that's good with Camaro right now. What a great time to be a Camaro enthusiast, and an old Camaro person from the dated past on top of it...like as in the difference from the horse and buggy to the space shuttle and having experienced the difference between them....<well, sort of speak>


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