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Bomino 04-02-2013 12:26 PM

Camaro Z/28 is 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 on Milford Road Course
 


According to Mr. Wyndham's interview with John Fitzpatrick (LINK) the mysterious course where the z/28 proved to be 3 seconds faster than the ZL1 is the MRC, or Milford Road Course.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 6371594)
The 1LE already proved faster than the Boss 302, which is no longer sold anyways. So were you competing with anybody with the Z/28, or did you just want to show off?

Let me put it this way. The Z/28, in our initial testing at the Milford Road Course (MRC) is three seconds faster than the ZL1. The ZL1 beat the GT500 there by three seconds. You can do the math from there…


Now someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this course is owned by GM.

It is a 2.9 mile course with 18 turns..

http://image.vetteweb.com/f/40267934...rucible-02.jpg

I am having a hard time finding lap times for current production vehicles, but this gives us an idea of how much faster the Z/28 is than the ZL1.

brt3 04-02-2013 12:31 PM

THANKS for that; I was dying to know where they clocked this. This actually looks like a pretty killer track, with a good mix of high speed sections and tight turns.

Here's what I found on Milford:

CAR & DRIVER VISIT MILFORD

VETTE AT MILFORD

MONTOYA AT MILFORD

woodside783 04-02-2013 12:45 PM

You know there is video

Bomino 04-02-2013 12:48 PM

If the Z/28 is 3 seconds faster than ZL1 on a 2.9 mile course, the theoretically it would be about 4 seconds faster on VIR, a 4.1 mile course. of course this doesnt take into account the course differences themselves, so that could be an inaccurate number.

but, 3-4 seconds faster than the ZL1's 2:57.5 on VIR (C&D's Lightning Lap) means this car might be running with the c6 z06, porsche GT3 RS, GTR, etc...

GoldenBear 04-02-2013 01:06 PM

It would be interesting to see a map showing the speed, g's, and separation distance of the two vehicles at all appropriate locations on the Milford course.

Angrybird 12 04-02-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBear (Post 6372265)
It would be interesting to see a map showing the speed, g's, and separation distance of the two vehicles at all appropriate locations on the Milford course.

Did you see the "Ghost Car" they had at Daytona Qualifying? It compared two cars positions on the track in the same video. It was neat seeing cars take different lines into the corners.

shaffe 04-02-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBear (Post 6372265)
It would be interesting to see a map showing the speed, g's, and separation distance of the two vehicles at all appropriate locations on the Milford course.

This^ I would love to see that.

I would guess that the ZL-1 was faster on the straights with more HP, but the Z/28 is also a lot lighter so I would love to see the differences

Zfatuated 04-02-2013 01:24 PM

I can easily imagine 3 seconds gained on that course by the Trofeos alone. They are a 50 treadwear rating and the the rubber is made in the same single vat as Pirelli's race slicks (I know someone in their Motorsport Division).

So that makes me think that GM is sandbagging, in a good way and rightly so at this point, the true potential of this car. The weight loss could be good for .5 second, deeper braking 1-2 seconds, and the aero for another second.

This new Z/28 should easily run with GT3RS's and base Corvettes all day long.

tonyfred 04-02-2013 06:12 PM

I dont care if it was 30 seconds faster. No way I am paying more for a stripped down ZL1 than what I paid for a fully loaded one.

wildpaws 04-02-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyfred (Post 6373518)
I dont care if it was 30 seconds faster. No way I am paying more for a stripped down ZL1 than what I paid for a fully loaded one.

:facepalm: :der: :facepalm: Obviously you do not understand this topic at all!
Clyde

GearheadSS 04-02-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyfred (Post 6373518)
I dont care if it was 30 seconds faster. No way I am paying more for a stripped down ZL1 than what I paid for a fully loaded one.

A stripped down ZL1? :laughabove:

Have you even read anything about the Z/28?

KMPrenger 04-02-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyfred (Post 6373518)
I dont care if it was 30 seconds faster. No way I am paying more for a stripped down ZL1 than what I paid for a fully loaded one.

Either very ignorant, or we have a jealous ZL1 owner here.

brt3 04-02-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomino (Post 6372211)
If the Z/28 is 3 seconds faster than ZL1 on a 2.9 mile course, the theoretically it would be about 4 seconds faster on VIR, a 4.1 mile course. of course this doesnt take into account the course differences themselves, so that could be an inaccurate number.

but, 3-4 seconds faster than the ZL1's 2:57.5 on VIR (C&D's Lightning Lap) means this car might be running with the c6 z06, porsche GT3 RS, GTR, etc...

C'mon, Team Camaro -- I want to see this thing run at the Ring! This car is going to stun a LOT of folks once Chevy posts the video of it running the Nordschleife...

Mr. Wyndham 04-02-2013 09:42 PM

Should be interesting to see if they bring it to any tracks to publish lap times...they've still got all summer to do so....wouldn't surprise me. After all - this is a track car. ;)


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