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LINMUP 04-02-2013 06:11 PM

500HP?
 
So GM is rating the Z28 at 500HP. Doesn't that seem low? I would guess that with the edition of a factory CAI and CNC's heads it would be closer to 530-540...or am I way off?

Unreal 04-02-2013 06:27 PM

LS7 heads have always been CNC'd.

Camaro_Corvette 04-02-2013 06:44 PM

GM usually gives a lower number than they expect.

KKreme15 04-02-2013 07:12 PM

They said 550 estimate when the zl1 was unveiled. Ended up being 580

Kluch 04-02-2013 07:15 PM

They are saying at LEAST 500 HP. They said at LEAST 550 HP for ZL1

Gary B 04-02-2013 07:26 PM

"At least 500" keeps the door open to what the blue oval boys may do.

Number 3 04-02-2013 07:33 PM

Well we know in the Covette it's 505.

The hope, if there is any, is that Camaro intake and exhaust breath better than the Corvette.

But I also doubt GM would spend the money to go recertify it. Having an advertisable HP number is nearly meaningless simply by having the LS7.

The ZL1 needed a bigger number to compete wth the GT500 and as it turned out they were right to do so.

I'd be shocked if you saw more than the current certified 505 for the LS7.

KKreme15 04-02-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3 (Post 6373838)
Well we know in the Covette it's 505.

The hope, if there is any, is that Camaro intake and exhaust breath better than the Corvette.

But I also doubt GM would spend the money to go recertify it. Having an advertisable HP number is nearly meaningless simply by having the LS7.

The ZL1 needed a bigger number to compete wth the GT500 and as it turned out they were right to do so.

I'd be shocked if you saw more than the current certified 505 for the LS7.

They can advertise whatever HP number they want, they just won't say it's SAE certified

Mr. Wyndham 04-02-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette (Post 6373643)
GM usually gives a lower number than they expect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKreme15 (Post 6373751)
They said 550 estimate when the zl1 was unveiled. Ended up being 580

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kluch (Post 6373759)
They are saying at LEAST 500 HP. They said at LEAST 550 HP for ZL1

:word:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary B (Post 6373810)
"At least 500" keeps the door open to what the blue oval boys may do.

I don't think Ford has anything to fight back against this one...


IMO...on paper, the hp is meaningless, because there's always the ZL1 with more at 580...the hp junkies will gravitate towards that car.

The Z/28, on the other hand...isn't meant for high volume sales, and chances are only those who really understand it's purpose and value will buy it. These people care about lateral G's...brake equipment, and lap times...they know horsepower is just a part of the overall formula.

Chances are...imho...the addition of the CAI, and 3" exhaust all the way back will result in a 510-520 hp car...I think. But No. 3 could be completely right in saying it might not be recertified...

LINMUP 04-03-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 6373579)
LS7 heads have always been CNC'd.

That I never new...thanks for the info...:thumb: I guess the CAI that the Z28 has is probably the equivalent to what the Z06 runs then...there goes my thinking on this topic lol

MikeSVX 04-03-2013 10:10 AM

I'm guessing they are "estimating" a 5 hp loss due to the different exhaust. The LS7 makes 505hp in the Z06.

Number 3 04-03-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KKreme15 (Post 6374359)
They can advertise whatever HP number they want, they just won't say it's SAE certified

GM's policy is to use SAE certified numbers only. So they can't advertise more than it makes. But it would be ok if it really made more. Refer to the 3.6L history. They used the certified CTS number until they re certified.

Richy_Rich 04-03-2013 02:55 PM

Z06's repeatedly see 460-470 on the dyno stock... that's about 550 on the fly.

for $60K, this needs to be the engine code:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5048/5...dc354742_z.jpg

DGthe3 04-05-2013 06:15 PM

I'm not 100% on how the test works, but as I understand it you have a window (no more than a couple percent) that you can pick your advertised power from. I imagine that the LS7 was rated as conservatively as possible with the SAE test procedure, since I'm pretty sure it was the first engine that was certified with that procedure. If all that is true (which it might not be), they would have enough leeway to rate it at 515 or so without having to actually recertify it. I don't know if SAE allows such a thing to happen, but it is a potential loophole they could exploit.

LOWDOWN 04-05-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Richy_Rich (Post 6377284)
for $60K, this needs to be the engine code:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5048/5...dc354742_z.jpg

100 eXtra pounds in eXactly the wrong place, and it's built to GMPP specs, NOT "production-ready".


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