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DarkneSS 04-29-2013 02:46 PM

Your next mod NEEDS to be a catch can!
 
Caution, GRAPHIC NSFW PHOTOS! :faint:
This is on an engine with 48,000 miles, after a 9,000 mile rebuild. I'm not sure if the tech cleaned it during the rebuild. I run Mobil 1 synthetic, K&N filters, and my only real performance mod before this dis-assembly was my vararam.

Plenum off
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103018
Significant puddles of oil on both sides! NOT good!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103019
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103020
Oil everywhere...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103022
Throttle body plate had significant build up
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103023
Lots of oil on each runner...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/pictur...ctureid=103024

Real glad I bought an entirely new manifold + catch can. You don't need to be a mechanic to see how bad this is. I can't imagine what 100,000 miles would look like!

Aubrey64 04-29-2013 02:52 PM

I have one, and I love it! Best mod for the money:headbang:

blkngldbabe 04-29-2013 02:55 PM

Wow. And I wondered where all my oil was going. Just wow. Any specific brand of catch can better than the other for the LLT?

DarkneSS 04-29-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blkngldbabe (Post 6483722)
Wow. And I wondered where all my oil was going. Just wow. Any specific brand of catch can better than the other for the LLT?

RX and Elite are the only ones you should get. I went with Elite as they offered Chrome at no extra cost and they were in stock and ready to ship from Apex. RX seems to have a lead time atm.

Apex Motorsports 04-29-2013 03:28 PM

I've said it before and I will say it again. A catch can is the best investment you can make in your engine's long term well being. That is especially true for the V6 engines.

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Originally Posted by blkngldbabe (Post 6483722)
Wow. And I wondered where all my oil was going. Just wow. Any specific brand of catch can better than the other for the LLT?

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS (Post 6483745)
RX and Elite are the only ones you should get. I went with Elite as they offered Chrome at no extra cost and they were in stock and ready to ship from Apex. RX seems to have a lead time atm.

RX and Elite are definitely two of the better ones. RX is running a few weeks out at the moment and Elite it ready to go.

ToolFan66 04-29-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase (Post 6483846)
I've said it before and I will say it again. A catch can is the best investment you can make in your engine's long term well being. That is especially true for the V6 engines.





RX and Elite are definitely two of the better ones. RX is running a few weeks out at the moment and Elite it ready to go.

Just ordered an Elite from your website!!

Thanks!!

Larry.

lscamaro 04-29-2013 04:04 PM

Damn, how many miles did you have on your car? When I did my ported manifold swap, I had 40,000 miles and mine looked almost perfectly clean. No catch can. The valves looked pretty clean too. No where near as bad as that

Apex Motorsports 04-29-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ToolFan66 (Post 6483909)
Just ordered an Elite from your website!!

Thanks!!

Larry.

Thanks for your order.

ActNup NY 04-29-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aubrey64 (Post 6483710)
I have one, and I love it! Best mod for the money:headbang:

+1 That look crazy !!!

batman53201 04-29-2013 05:13 PM

my catch can will arrive before my car does. ordered the elite.

JDP Tyler 04-29-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by batman53201 (Post 6484290)
my catch can will arrive before my car does. ordered the elite.

That's the way to do it! :thumb:

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

Can't_C_Me 04-29-2013 05:35 PM

Awesome pictures and proof of why a catch can is needed. If I recall you just seafoam's the engine also right?

DarkneSS 04-29-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro (Post 6483991)
Damn, how many miles did you have on your car? When I did my ported manifold swap, I had 40,000 miles and mine looked almost perfectly clean. No catch can. The valves looked pretty clean too. No where near as bad as that

Really!? 48,000...how hard do you drive your car? Keep it mind it gets very cold here in the winter, its seen 3 cold winters driven hard daily.
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Originally Posted by Can't_C_Me (Post 6484401)
Awesome pictures and proof of why a catch can is needed. If I recall you just seafoam's the engine also right?

Yes using your DIY! It was a huge help :thumbup:

lscamaro 04-29-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS (Post 6484539)
Really!? 48,000...how hard do you drive your car? Keep it mind it gets very cold here in the winter, its seen 3 cold winters driven hard daily.

I drive it really hard. Mine's also a daily driver. Have tracked it more times than I can count. Don't know if temperature makes a difference but it never really gets cold here.

jameslk55 04-29-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by batman53201 (Post 6484290)
my catch can will arrive before my car does. ordered the elite.

Lucky guy-I didn't hear about catch cans until after we picked up our Camaro in Michigan and drove it back to Virginia... :frown:

Here are some of my LFX installation tips: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271660

ToolFan66 04-29-2013 06:51 PM

Well I just hit 14K on my car, and I figure better late then never, also I don't believe 14K is too much..

Sapper12b 04-29-2013 06:53 PM

How well does that factory Catch Can work, is it on par with after market catch cans or not ?

menendez1293 04-29-2013 06:56 PM

Awesome example. I have had a catch can since 4100 miles

lscamaro 04-29-2013 06:59 PM

Forgot to ask, did you feel anything after doing the cleaning?

ToolFan66 04-29-2013 07:10 PM

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Just took this picture, looks pretty clean.

Can't_C_Me 04-29-2013 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkneSS (Post 6484539)
Really!? 48,000...how hard do you drive your car? Keep it mind it gets very cold here in the winter, its seen 3 cold winters driven hard daily.

Yes using your DIY! It was a huge help :thumbup:

:thumb: Love your wheels also!! Are those TSW in Chrome?

Apex Motorsports 04-29-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapper12b (Post 6484727)
How well does that factory Catch Can work, is it on par with after market catch cans or not ?

The system that comes on the 1LE is a "clean side" set up. It is not nearly as effective as the aftermarket systems that work on the "dirty side". The best solution would to be running both.

Sapper12b 04-29-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase (Post 6484924)
The system that comes on the 1LE is a "clean side" set up. It is not nearly as effective as the aftermarket systems that work on the "dirty side". The best solution would to be running both.

Thanks ! Ill definitely look into that.

batman53201 04-29-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jameslk350 (Post 6484644)
Lucky guy-I didn't hear about catch cans until after we picked up our Camaro in Michigan and drove it back to Virginia... :frown:

Here are some of my LFX installation tips: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271660


i wish i would of known about this 10 years ago. would of put one on my truck.

plus i just looked at my invoice they sent me, and they are sending the driver side mount, which i told them im mounting it on the passenger side. i hope its universal

gahammerle 04-29-2013 08:59 PM

The typical single catch can installation is on the dirty side only. If you want to prevent the deposits on the throttle body, you need a can on the clean side as well, or disconnect the clean side line and run a breather.


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