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Enator 05-01-2013 11:12 AM

April 2013 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)
 
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April 2013 Delivery (sales) Stats:

Camaro April 2013 Deliveries (actual sales): 7,949 -17% (Pr Ye) :frusty:

April 2013 Production Stats:

Camaro Produced in April 2013: 6,171

Compared to Competition:

Mustang sold 7,751 units in April 2013. -1% (Pr Ye) :iono:
Challenger sold 4,804 units in April 2013. +17% (Pr Ye) :clap:

PYROLYSIS 05-01-2013 11:29 AM

Wow. The Challenger has outsold the Mustang so far this year. I hope the refresh strengthens the Camaros lead.

Enator 05-01-2013 12:14 PM

Sorry my bad. It is fixed now LOL

dkp2LT 05-01-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Enator (Post 6492191)
Sorry my bad. It is fixed now LOL

I was like 'huh'???

Really interesting in this chart when the 14's are built & people start holding off for the next gen of the Mustang & Camaro. The trend for the Challenger is impressive considering how little it's changed.

90503 05-01-2013 12:47 PM

Third month in a row for Camaro sales going down....Ya think maybe there was a reason for the "re-fresh"?...the old look is all played out....

v6sonoma 05-01-2013 01:01 PM

Camaro's still holding on to the lead, but it's clear the Challenger is chipping away at both Ford and Chevy.

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Originally Posted by dkp2LT (Post 6492239)
I was like 'huh'???

Really interesting in this chart when the 14's are built & people start holding off for the next gen of the Mustang & Camaro. The trend for the Challenger is impressive considering how little it's changed.

To be honest the Challenger has changed quite a bit. They got rid of that awful V6 for their current one, they've beefed up the SRT to 470hp, and they always come out with exciting colors and special packages. I think they've done pretty well considering.

dkp2LT 05-01-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by v6sonoma (Post 6492393)
To be honest the Challenger has changed quite a bit. They got rid of that awful V6 for their current one, they've beefed up the SRT to 470hp, and they always come out with exciting colors and special packages. I think they've done pretty well considering.

Thanks for the clarification/information since I really never checked it out. I'm sure they're enjoying the ride while the Mustang & Camaro go through their last few model years.

I would agree w/ above that that the chart indicates the Camaro needed some sort of refresh - whether or not you like it.

2cnd chance 05-01-2013 01:15 PM

Incentives and new releases of each car muddy the waters too much. You need wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more detail to understand this fully. Bottom line I see the Camaro still doing well!

Fiery re-Creation 05-01-2013 01:28 PM

Happy to count myself in as one of those sales! :headbang:

dimster 05-01-2013 01:33 PM

Is it possible to find out how many were V6s and how many were V8s?

Enator 05-01-2013 01:35 PM

It was before but not anymore sorry.

Fiveg56 05-01-2013 01:37 PM

The Challenger is a stronger contender these days...and for good reason...they are cool cars.

mirabella 05-01-2013 01:42 PM

One of those April sales was mine :)

Cheveey57 05-01-2013 01:50 PM

Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

cbass 05-01-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

I hope not. I guess it depends on how much they increase the price on 2014's. Usually a refresh will help with sales.

Is the refresh bad enough that you would buy a mustang or challenger instead?

Frank in MD 05-01-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

You're probably correct about that, but probably not for the reason you're thinking. Sales usually start to slide a bit after year three of any design b/c the car begins to get long in the tooth, which is why a Mid Cycle Enhancement, or MCE is usually done after the 3rd year.

If the numbers are down for the 2014 version it will have almost nothing to do with tail lights.

For proof of that all anyone needs to do is to look at Enators chart, the car has declined in sales every year since it's debut.

fbodfather 05-01-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

:facepalm:
And you'll be devastated if they aren't.....
:facepalm:

There is all sort of evidence that sales deteriorate 20% by the third year of a lifecycle - therefore, Mid-cycles are planned at some point.


If you go back to 2008, there was caterwauling of all sorts when people saw the taillamps and back-up lamps of the current Camaro. People actually were struck sterile when they saw the steering wheel on the 2010! (...at least you'd think they were by the carrying-on on this very site....) -- and yet people must have fell in love with it - because when we changed it for 2012, the world was going to come to an end. We'd never be able to sell the car with the hideous new wheel................

Once again I'll ask you to cut everyone a break - and wait until you see the 2014 Camaros in person - you just MAY be surprised!

(..........but I have a feeling that no matter what we do, you'll still have something to say about it........)

Sapper12b 05-01-2013 03:22 PM

Interesting numbers

dkp2LT 05-01-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

Believe it not there are people out there that will love the refresh. IMO there will be a uptick in sales due to the refresh - but I think the overall trend will stay on a downward slop. Had GM not done a refresh then the downward slope would have been greater - so I think it was necessary for GM to make changes to keep the style fresh and get new buyers in the door. Overall you'll see Camaro beat out the Mustang until Ford releases the next Gen - then you'll see Ford beat out GM for a short amount of time until GM releases the new Camaro. At that time the trend will reverse & the Camaro will beat the Mustang's a$$.

Just MHO.

Bad@ssCamaro 05-01-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

:laughabove: Mr Negative Nelly...Debbie Downer...:pound: WHOA.... the Fbodfather has spoken :bow:

sspolo 05-01-2013 08:27 PM

Yeap. Outside of Camaro5.com most of the people on the internet have said they like the 2014 Camaro. It'll be a hit, I know it. IMO the current taillights look too small for such a big car. The new taillights seem to fit the big body of the car. Either way, I'm sure I'd prefer the Camaro over the new Mustang that is suppose to have a front end that looks like a bass fish.

2010SLVRBULIT 05-02-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheveey57 (Post 6492622)
Wait until the 14's come out, the sales will be worse.

:word:

generally now the sales start dopping off overall(not design based, economy based) and summer/fall(4th quarter release) sales determine if the 'new' model will be a success are not. We'll see how 'interested' internet/street customers are in purchasing the 2014 model Camaro, despite it's local non-popularity.

I am interested in seeing this model live, especially the non-RS SS, but skeptical that the refresh will change my mind. But, overall, it's just a car, and I still have my 2010 to fall back on.:pop2:

2010SLVRBULIT 05-02-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 90503 (Post 6492334)
Third month in a row for Camaro sales going down....Ya think maybe there was a reason for the "re-fresh"?...the old look is all played out....

nope, you think everyone wants to buy just Camaros or Mustangs?:lol:

2010SLVRBULIT 05-02-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS (Post 6492014)
Wow. The Challenger has outsold the Mustang so far this year. I hope the refresh strengthens the Camaros lead.

saay, whaat?:twitch:

Revrider550 05-02-2013 08:30 AM

i really think camaro sales will pick up from off the lot sales where as challangers are all about orders. As far as mustangs go recently being in the market i can tell you Fords deals suck.... theyre such scam artists on their commercials. leasing cheap little economy cars as $189 a month with $3,999 down plus tax and tags. at that point youre talking $5,000 down for a lease and that just leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth for the brand. Also happy to help chevy this year will the purchase of my 2013 though!


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