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Rob21sf 06-04-2013 01:47 PM

CTS-V brake upgrade
 
Ok, if I went with a 09-12 CTS-V calipers for my V6, what brake rotors, brake pads and SS lines is recommended by the experts!

I do not track or drag race the car and it's a daily driver. Just looking to get peoples opinion on what are the components I can use with these calipers. :iono:

Doc 06-04-2013 01:58 PM

If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

camaro actual 06-04-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6627943)
If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

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CHMSC 06-04-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6627943)
If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

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Rob21sf 06-04-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6627943)
If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

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Originally Posted by camaro actual (Post 6628021)
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Originally Posted by CHMSC (Post 6628036)
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Thank you for showing me the light, I guess SS brake upgrade will be fine for my intended use.

tjd24 06-04-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6627943)
If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

My thoughts exactly - for my 2010 A6 I went for the 1LE calipers/rotors (pic shows them on their spindles, love the red) that GEN5diy offered in the sponsor classified brake section.

SSOOCH 06-04-2013 03:35 PM

IMO keep the brakes you have.

camaro4mybday 06-04-2013 05:27 PM

i do not track my car and i upgraded to the cts v set up because i wanted them. i went with r1 rotors, pedders brake lines, hawk pads which i dont recommend just dont forget the new master

Firefighter 06-04-2013 05:45 PM

If GM ever comes out with the ZL1 brake upgrade (and it's priced right) you might see some more upgrades done. The CTS-V set up will be my second choice.

By the end of the year I will be making my move one way or the other. I'm sure there will be a number of us doing the same.

SPCBA 06-04-2013 06:42 PM

ummm zl1 brakes are already available....also to the above poster 1le brakes are ss brakes just with red calipers

toehead93 06-04-2013 06:46 PM

Yeah I agree if are not track ng the car then no point in CTS-V upgrade. The stock SS upgrade will be plenty of improvement.

jordan 572 06-04-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc (Post 6627943)
If you don't track the car, then why would you want to upgrade to CTS-V brakes? Just get stock SS Brembos which are more than good for street and daily driver use. A good street pad combined with stainless steel brake lines will be perfect for the street.

I don't and I upgraded my brakes on my ss with the JDP package cause they look so ba. Especially with the wheels I have, the brakes stick out, the 6 piston brakes look massive next to the oe brakes.

Firefighter 06-04-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA (Post 6629370)
ummm zl1 brakes are already available....also to the above poster 1le brakes are ss brakes just with red calipers

The ZL1 upgrade package is not available last time I talked to my parts guy (today) you can buy a pieced together from the part numbers kit from one of the vendors but it's pretty pricey. I'm figuring/ hoping that the ZL1 kit will be closer to the CTS-V pricing.

As far as the 1LE calipers just being red SS calipers... I know that. I was speaking in general of SS brakes. A lot of people want red calipers. I personally can't stand them. They work great though.

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speedmon 06-05-2013 12:50 AM

As long as the V6 spindle is the same as the SS(bolt up), I think you should stongly consider the CTS-V calipers.....there is very little cost difference between the calipers....(on Amazon) and any cost difference is well worth the "Bad Ass" effect....like the other guy said.

And your car weighs almost as much as the SSs......so it needs just as much brake.

The amount of work is the same.....just depends if you want 4P or 6P.

Rob21sf 06-05-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by speedmon (Post 6630942)
As long as the V6 spindle is the same as the SS(bolt up), I think you should stongly consider the CTS-V calipers.....there is very little cost difference between the calipers....(on Amazon) and any cost difference is well worth the "Bad Ass" effect....like the other guy said.

And your car weighs almost as much as the SSs......so it needs just as much brake.

The amount of work is the same.....just depends if you want 4P or 6P.


Just when I thought I had my mind made up you gave me more food for thought! Thank you.

Firefighter 06-05-2013 09:41 AM

Rob it's like anything you will ever do to your car. You have to decide what you need as far as performance, then looks, and balance the cost. Admittedly looks play a role in my decision to go to the ZL1 set up but since I plan on doing HP mods I hope to get close to ZL1 power N/A.

With all that said the brakes on my 1LE SS are more than ample for stock performance and they should be more than enough for a rowdy V6 Camaro.

Decide what you NEED, then decide what you WANT... then figure out what you can AFFORD.

Doc 06-05-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro4mybday (Post 6628961)
i do not track my car and i upgraded to the cts v set up because i wanted them. i went with r1 rotors, pedders brake lines, hawk pads which i dont recommend just dont forget the new master

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Originally Posted by jordan 572 (Post 6629506)
I don't and I upgraded my brakes on my ss with the JDP package cause they look so ba. Especially with the wheels I have, the brakes stick out, the 6 piston brakes look massive next to the oe brakes.

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Originally Posted by Firefighter (Post 6631811)
Rob it's like anything you will ever do to your car. You have to decide what you need as far as performance, then looks, and balance the cost. Admittedly looks play a role in my decision to go to the ZL1 set up but since I plan on doing HP mods I hope to get close to ZL1 power N/A.

With all that said the brakes on my 1LE SS are more than ample for stock performance and they should be more than enough for a rowdy V6 Camaro.

Decide what you NEED, then decide what you WANT... then figure out what you can AFFORD.

Basically it's like Firefighter said, if you want it and can afford it get what you want. Most people are on a budget and can't afford to endlessly spend money on mods. The stock SS Brembos are more than good for street use and daily driving. If you want to spend money on mods you can actually feel to improve your driving experience, there's better things to spend money on than what's essentially a cosmetic brake upgrade...unless you're building a show car, but it didn't sound like the OP was into that.

But like the man said:

"Decide what you NEED, then decide what you WANT... then figure out what you can AFFORD".

JDP Tyler 06-05-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob21sf (Post 6627892)
Ok, if I went with a 09-12 CTS-V calipers for my V6, what brake rotors, brake pads and SS lines is recommended by the experts!

I do not track or drag race the car and it's a daily driver. Just looking to get peoples opinion on what are the components I can use with these calipers. :iono:

You will also need the caliper bolts, Pin kits and custom lines to complete the package as the SS lines are just a little short in our opinion. We had Goodridge build a set of lines specially for our CTS-V package. As for rotors, I would suggest the stock CTS-V rotors to keep the cost down. They are a great rotor for the price.

Our CTS-V brake upgrade package includes everything you need for the swap right down to the fluid and brake pads. We even offer powder coating to achieve the look you are going for. Please feel free to call, PM or email me anytime with questions.

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Originally Posted by jordan 572 (Post 6629506)
I don't and I upgraded my brakes on my ss with the JDP package cause they look so ba. Especially with the wheels I have, the brakes stick out, the 6 piston brakes look massive next to the oe brakes.

Looks killer! Thanks again for your business and support! :thanks:

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Inferno LSX 06-10-2013 10:59 AM

Maybe you can find someone who swapped out a SS to CTSV brakes. I had my full stock (front and rear) brakes sold before I had them off the car to a G8 owner. If going from the V6 brakes might want to get front and rear calipers. Going from 6 to 16 pistons is a huge upgrade. The G8 that got my stock SS brakes talks about how much better they look and perform.

SPCBA 06-10-2013 11:26 AM

the ss brakes stock everything rotors pads calipers etc are great brakes. i have tracked my car with that and ss lines and dot 4 fluid.

once i got faster i upgraded the components of the ss brakes and now can outbrake gtrs on a road course wih zero brake fade in a automatic. i really cant say ctsv/zl1 front brake kits (the rears are the same as ss) are needed for anyone but the most hardcore and high powered road course cars. yes the front calipers are bigger with a bigger rotor.

do what you want, you came here for advice and you got it from mulitple people

Inferno LSX 06-10-2013 11:57 AM

Between the rear CTSV and the SS was a slight difference. The pistons in the V calipers were hollow and a lot lighter than the pistons in the SS rears which were solid with a small hole. Not sure if all are like that, just what I noticed from the one set I've had my hands on from a V and a SS.

JusticePete 06-10-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter (Post 6629518)
The ZL1 upgrade package is not available last time I talked to my parts guy (today) you can buy a pieced together from the part numbers kit from one of the vendors but it's pretty pricey. I'm figuring/ hoping that the ZL1 kit will be closer to the CTS-V pricing.

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Ain't gonna happen in the near future. The ZL1 has brand value and Chevrolet wants to protect it. If you want a ZL1 logo on a six pot caliper you are going to pay a premium price for them. The CTS-V parts are a bargain.

use the CTS-V dual cast rotor, CTS-V brake pads front and rear along with Pedders brake lines.

Rob21sf 06-11-2013 06:15 AM

Thanks again everybody for the wealth of information!

tjd24 06-17-2013 12:34 PM

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I considered the CTS-V brake upgrade but then came across GEN5diy.com's 1LE brake take-off post - http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287397

Great customer service - the 1LE red Brembo calipers and SS Rotors + Goodridge Stainless Steel brakelines are exactly what I wanted for my SIM 2010 RS A6 and the performance is great.

For a street ride with some autocross / SCCA Solo events this more than meets my needs and save me serious coin over the CTS-V option...

Firefighter 06-18-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete (Post 6652753)
Ain't gonna happen in the near future. The ZL1 has brand value and Chevrolet wants to protect it. If you want a ZL1 logo on a six pot caliper you are going to pay a premium price for them. The CTS-V parts are a bargain.

use the CTS-V dual cast rotor, CTS-V brake pads front and rear along with Pedders brake lines.

Pete the thing is I don't want the logo. I'll actually try and come up with something that says 1LE.

My problem is that if you do a front and rear painted set up from one of the vendors it's approaching $4K. I can do it cheaper with used parts and rebuild them myself. It will be a hassle. If the GM kit is mid $2K I'm going to go that route. I want black calipers and don't necessarily need fancy rotors the factory stuff will be ample.

I would consider doing the Racing Brakes rebuild kits with the SS pistons, if I did used parts.

I'm still in the research phase. The stock SS brakes are really very good for the street and I can see them being adequate for the track until you reach a higher level of driving than I am currently capable of.

It is a 60/40 proposition for me right now 60% looks and 40% performance.

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