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The 2010 Sin 06-07-2013 02:44 PM

Clutch Review: Out w/ Monster in w/ the Slayer
 
This is my 10,000 mile review:

Previously installed in my 2010 Camaro full bolt on heads and cammed LS3 I had the Monster Stage 3 single disc capable of 700hp/tq. I was having problems blowing out master cylinder after master cylinder (4 to be exact) tried the lingenfelter clutch return spring and the braided line between the slave and the master. Still no dice. I was told by several employees at monster that I do not know how to drive the car at 3,500 miles of squealing like a pig and shuddering so bad it was embarrassing to drive I decided to call it quits and work with the guys at http://www.hendrix-engineering.com/

When we pulled the transmission and looked at the monster clutch the blades that come off were totally bare metal on metal in a few areas *losing all of its contact patch between clutch disc and the flywheel.* We and all of us at Jim Glover Chevrolet were completely dumbfounded. The shim, the flywheel and the clutch was all installed properly and double checked for anything being loose before we pulled it apart and removed it.

We un-boxed the Hendrix engineering street slayer billet twin carbon and they were excited. Finally a clutch that looked the part. (the install tech was a little concerned about it being a strapless design but he followed the instructions to a T and did it right.)

First drive was unbelieveable! MY CAR MOVES WITHOUT SQUEAKING OR SHUDDERING! I dont have to "LEARN HOW TO DRIVE MY CAR" either. :frusty:

After the first oil change at 3,500 miles I also changed my clutch fluid and it was super clean but did it anyway just to prevent issues down the road.

I find it crazy that this clutch capable of holding 800RWHP drives easier with a smoother engagement and no shudder or squeal driven normally. I even removed and sold the clutch return spring which is no longer needed and I have not had the need to replace my Master Cyl. after 10,000 miles of driving on this gorgeously performing clutch.

Bravo http://www.hendrix-engineering.com/ You've done a bang up job on this one.. (You kicked the little monster in bell housing!) :clap2::hail::thumb::thanks:


So the moral of the story is save your money and spend it properly on a unit that is made for the car not shimmed out from GTO specs.


I have over $1,500 from that monster that i'll never get back. (Clutch, install, master cyls x 4 and slave) My loss will hopefully be your gain!!!! :confused0068:

blufin 06-07-2013 06:03 PM

I went with the Street Slayer twin carbon when my stock clutch gave out after several hundred passes at the drag strip. I couldn't be happier with the street manors and how it performs on the strip. Even when new, the stock clutch would get hot and smell terrible after a few launches. The Street Slayer has never smelled after a full night of racing. The engagement/disengagemet is smooth like butter and holds tons of torque.

jamesr 06-07-2013 06:45 PM

Yea going through same stuff with my level 2 twin monster only have 550 miles on clutch they want me to send it back so they can measure everything shutters bad i 3rd &4th has no free travel .G to measure most likely need to take so off the adapter but may change to a street slayer just have to get it out next week.

The 2010 Sin 06-07-2013 07:29 PM

I'm sorry to hear you're going through the monster issues.. Save yourself and dont waste money trying to reinstall one. They always want you to spend $500 labor to have them send you another turd to put in the bell housing.

jamesr 06-07-2013 07:41 PM

Sin you race Tulsa I use to run MAKO about 5 years ago

The 2010 Sin 06-07-2013 08:57 PM

No i dont race in Tulsa, I'm married to my job nowdays. :-/ use to run Club/SCCA racing at hallett road course.

The 2010 Sin 06-07-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesr (Post 6643353)
Sin you race Tulsa I use to run MAKO about 5 years ago

That was with Turner Motorsports/BMW

yotaman96 06-08-2013 12:07 AM

I have the Street Slayer twin carbon as well. Mine's not as pretty as the newer ones, but so far, it works great.

quincy speeder 06-08-2013 08:12 AM

Good write up.

I had similar problems with the monster. Clutch is junk.

GLGJR 06-08-2013 10:46 AM

Where is the "Like" button?

dekan513 06-08-2013 10:50 AM

monsters seem to alway have problems unless u get in the twins. but street slayer and rxt is wht u hear nothing but good things about . glad u can enjoy ur car now .

The 2010 Sin 06-09-2013 10:45 AM

above shows someone is having an issue with the monster twin! They need to stick to gto's

The 2010 Sin 06-10-2013 02:58 PM

anyone else have any issues with the monsters like I did?

mp51998 06-10-2013 05:22 PM

I did in the wifes car but it was a single. I was told I needed to learn how to drive it correctly as well. Kept it about a month then put the stocker back in. I have a Mantic 9000 twin in my car for about 3k miles and so far no problems. I won't buy another Monster clutch.

The 2010 Sin 06-10-2013 07:45 PM

mine was a single too. I hope people and vendors read this so they're not buying or selling a customer service nightmare.

quincy speeder 06-12-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dekan513 (Post 6645269)
monsters seem to alway have problems unless u get in the twins. but street slayer and rxt is wht u hear nothing but good things about . glad u can enjoy ur car now .

My friend bought the Monster triple (not listening to me) Never worked right and smoked itself in about 2 weeks. He then put in a McLeod.

The 2010 Sin 06-12-2013 01:56 PM

bazinga! Another monster kicked in the bell housing.

newmoon 06-13-2013 02:35 PM

I had the same issues with a Monster Stage 3. The car was a PIA to drive, no fun at all unless it was under hard throttle. First Monster wanted me to go beat the hell out of the clutch and car, which did not help, then they wanted me to un-install the clutch so they could inspect it. Between the clutch and axle issues I became so frustrated with it and the reality that I had just wasted $1,000.00 on the Monster and now was looking at another $2,000.00 for the Slayer, and another $1,500.00 for axles, I sold the car. I knew I should have bought an automatic car:noidea:

The 2010 Sin 06-13-2013 03:09 PM

should've just bought a slayer. I almost sold my car because of monster clutch too. Waste of damn money.

blufin 06-13-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newmoon (Post 6666459)
I had the same issues with a Monster Stage 3. The car was a PIA to drive, no fun at all unless it was under hard throttle. First Monster wanted me to go beat the hell out of the clutch and car, which did not help, then they wanted me to un-install the clutch so they could inspect it. Between the clutch and axle issues I became so frustrated with it and the reality that I had just wasted $1,000.00 on the Monster and now was looking at another $2,000.00 for the Slayer, and another $1,500.00 for axles, I sold the car. I knew I should have bought an automatic car:noidea:

That's a shame. It may have been a wash based on how big of a hit you took on the trade in vs the money to get the right clutch. Oh well. The past is the past.

On a different note: How do you like the 'Stang? Is it everything you hoped it would be?

newmoon 06-14-2013 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blufin (Post 6667925)
That's a shame. It may have been a wash based on how big of a hit you took on the trade in vs the money to get the right clutch. Oh well. The past is the past.

On a different note: How do you like the 'Stang? Is it everything you hoped it would be?

You might be right in the wash. But at the time I was so frustrated I didn't want to sink another penny into the car. I bought the 5.0 used for a very nice price. Had the car for only 2-months. While it was a fun car the MT82 transmission was garbage and it was going to take voiding the warranty to correct the issues. I could see the transmission and clutch issues starting all over again. In comparing the SS to the 5.0 I liked the SS much better.

My next car will be an automatic, maybe a SS, Zl1, or another 392 Challenger. For the way I like to drive and race the 6-speed just isn't for me.

H-E 06-14-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newmoon (Post 6668933)
You might be right in the wash. But at the time I was so frustrated I didn't want to sink another penny into the car. I bought the 5.0 used for a very nice price. Had the car for only 2-months. While it was a fun car the MT82 transmission was garbage and it was going to take voiding the warranty to correct the issues. I could see the transmission and clutch issues starting all over again. In comparing the SS to the 5.0 I liked the SS much better.

My next car will be an automatic, maybe a SS, Zl1, or another 392 Challenger. For the way I like to drive and race the 6-speed just isn't for me.

Man I wish we could have helped you. On a side note that dodge ran 12.40s stock dang killer time with that low of a mph I like those cars but was waiting on the convertible

The 2010 Sin 06-14-2013 08:40 AM

Really sorry to hear monster clutch made you want to sell your car it was so bad. That's completely unacceptable in my opinion. Thought about suing but there is no buyer protection from this type of situation. There should be because its RIDICULOUS. And were just a few people that have spoken out.

newmoon 06-14-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H-E (Post 6669181)
Man I wish we could have helped you. On a side note that dodge ran 12.40s stock dang killer time with that low of a mph I like those cars but was waiting on the convertible

Out of the 3 cars the 392 was clearly my favorite. The car was really quick. I am pretty sure it is capable of stock 12:20s as a few others have done. My quickest runs were with TC on which gave me high 1:80-1:90 60' times, with it off the best I could do is 2:05. It took me awhile to figure out that I wasn't faster than the computer :). Had I been able to launch it properly with out computer nannies who knows what it would have run.

The 2010 Sin 06-14-2013 07:42 PM

Oh well.. maybe a ZL1 someday!?!?! :-)


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