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amizz10 06-26-2013 03:58 AM

cam help
 
looking to purchase a cam kit within this week or so. i dont know much about cam lifts and their specs. all i know is i want a bad ass sounding heavy cam.

trying to make around 450-470whp
supporting mods are CAI cold air intake, 1 7/8 ARH with highflow cats, x-pipe and full 3 inch exhaust.

i know every car is different along with every dyno but thats where i roughly want to be around hp wise

help would be greatly appreciated

videos of idle/dyno would be even more appreciated lol :thumb::thumbup::clap2:

SSMickey 06-26-2013 06:47 AM

I would call some of the more well known shops such as Vengeance, FSP, PCM, Jennety, Lethal or Rhino on here and discuss your goals with them. They are the experts, use there knowledge to your advantage. Nothing wrong with soliciting opinions on here, but your going to find that most will recommend what they already have. Also, you might want to consider a custom grind. A custom gring in most cases will be the same or just slightly more than an off the shelf grind. BTW, do you have an LS3 or L99 engine?

Mwalterhouse 06-26-2013 06:59 AM

Just finished my build with a Comp Custom Cam #146-000-11, cam spec 273 / 285. Final numbers were 460 rwhp and 431 torque. Very pleased with the results and the sound.

Birm 06-26-2013 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMickey (Post 6717159)
I would call some of the more well known shops such as Vengeance, FSP, PCM, Jennety, Lethal or Rhino on here and discuss your goals with them. They are the experts, use there knowledge to your advantage. Nothing wrong with soliciting opinions on here, but your going to find that most will recommend what they already have. Also, you might want to consider a custom grind. A custom gring in most cases will be the same or just slightly more than an off the shelf grind. BTW, do you have an LS3 or L99 engine?

Thanks for the mention :respekt:

amizz10- Most mid-big off the shelf cam's will get you in the window of where you are wanting to be power wise. I try and recommend a custom grind to anyone looking though simply because it is tailored to exactly what you are looking for. It ends up with the driveability that you desire and the powerband/torque curve to match.

Feel free to give us a call or PM myself or Matt if you'd like or if you anymore questions.

amizz10 06-27-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMickey (Post 6717159)
I would call some of the more well known shops such as Vengeance, FSP, PCM, Jennety, Lethal or Rhino on here and discuss your goals with them. They are the experts, use there knowledge to your advantage. Nothing wrong with soliciting opinions on here, but your going to find that most will recommend what they already have. Also, you might want to consider a custom grind. A custom gring in most cases will be the same or just slightly more than an off the shelf grind. BTW, do you have an LS3 or L99 engine?

i have an LS3. i went over to vette doctors and told them what i wanted. they're gonna do a baseline dyno and then see what will be need to achieve my hp goal. but from what i understand i think ill be running a 231/239 .644/.624 114

litle88 06-27-2013 03:15 PM

I'd go with a nice NF cam if you ask me, that cam is the TSP cam iirc and it won't cam as hard as a 112lsa. Just my .2

Ron@Vengeance 06-27-2013 03:39 PM

I would suggest doing a search on our "Kaotik" camshaft..I believe this camshaft would meet all of your criteria.

turbolvr321 06-27-2013 03:52 PM

Im running a comp custom grind, stainless works headers, and an LMR intake (Factory cat back) These are my cam specs 236/250 .624/.624 on a 114. Its getting the final dyno tune right now at LMR (AWESOME BUNCH OF GUYS), Ill post up what the numbers are.

Here are a couple videos:
With LTH
http://youtu.be/sFv78n5wgL0

Just cam:
http://youtu.be/H_SEwoSwgPQ

SPCBA 06-27-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birm (Post 6717260)
Thanks for the mention :respekt:

amizz10- Most mid-big off the shelf cam's will get you in the window of where you are wanting to be power wise. I try and recommend a custom grind to anyone looking though simply because it is tailored to exactly what you are looking for. It ends up with the driveability that you desire and the powerband/torque curve to match.

Feel free to give us a call or PM myself or Matt if you'd like or if you anymore questions.

i dont agree with shops and vendors much...but when i do its dedicated places like FSP.

custom grind is where its at...especially now that it costs the same as a off shelf now. really need to sit down with a professional and tell them how you drive the car and your goals and get the right grind for you. your power goals are actually pretty simple....its what you expect it drive like that is hard. get a good tuner and a custom grind and neeeever look back

litle88 06-27-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolvr321 (Post 6724156)
Im running a comp custom grind, stainless works headers, and an LMR intake (Factory cat back) These are my cam specs 236/250 .624/.624 on a 114. Its getting the final dyno tune right now at LMR (AWESOME BUNCH OF GUYS), Ill post up what the numbers are.

Here are a couple videos:
With LTH
http://youtu.be/sFv78n5wgL0

Just cam:
http://youtu.be/H_SEwoSwgPQ

Lol tell them to hurry up on this I really wanna see your numbers! And what you think of the setup. So tell them to STOP messing with GS vettes with the turbo farm truck during lunch lol. That poor vette had his feelings hurt!

SSMickey 06-27-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance (Post 6724112)
I would suggest doing a search on our "Kaotik" camshaft..I believe this camshaft would meet all of your criteria.

Ron's Stage II ain't no slouch either.

Mutant Racer 06-28-2013 01:26 AM

I would recommend a street friendly cam. Mine is Texas S&P 231/236 to keep my car manageable in street traffic, no lurching and the nice characteristic it has is you wil have moderate low gear torque with a solid gain in mid gear topping off with a healthy push before shifting. Sweet spots never felt so sweet.

Currently running 455hp with 426 torque.

Friend of mine tomd me this about mild cams to...

Quote:

as far as cam, bigger isnt always better for boost. So the fact that you have a mild cam would be better for a boosted application. On a big cam, normally the overlap (amount of time that both intake and exhaust valves are open) is greater. Which is better for an N/A application to use the exhaust scavenging ability to increase TQ and HP. but on boosted, if you have more overlap... the boost is just blowing through the intake and out the exhaust. So a mild cam is better normally.
Taxe S&P long tube headers 1 7/8 w/ cat, SLP LMII, Speed INC. yune, BMR Sways, Roto-Fab induction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=gPvQXyR38Dc

Street friendly lope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fpLO7zhlfmU


http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7e4bd180.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...o%20SS/si3.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...o%20SS/si1.jpg

litle88 06-28-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutant Racer (Post 6726209)
I would recommend a street friendly cam. Mine is Texas S&P 231/236 to keep my car manageable in street traffic, no lurching and the nice characteristic it has is you wil have moderate low gear torque with a solid gain in mid gear topping off with a healthy push before shifting. Sweet spots never felt so sweet.

Currently running 455hp with 426 torque.

Friend of mine tomd me this about mild cams to...



Taxe S&P long tube headers 1 7/8 w/ cat, SLP LMII, Speed INC. yune, BMR Sways, Roto-Fab induction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=gPvQXyR38Dc

Street friendly lope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fpLO7zhlfmU


http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7e4bd180.jpg

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/a...o%20SS/si3.jpg

He told you that because you want to add a blower and that cam you have can be used but not the best.

The OP wants to CAM HARD so a cam in the 112 and other variables increased will make it cam HARD. LSX Camaro posted a video and that sounds nice, even untuned.

BLACK10 06-28-2013 09:44 AM

something with an idle like this perhaps?!


litle88 06-28-2013 11:31 AM

That's CAMIN HARD!!!

I can never get enough of that's DAMN cam lol

turbolvr321 06-28-2013 12:27 PM

467/424 are the final numbers.



Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolvr321 (Post 6724156)
Im running a comp custom grind, stainless works headers, and an LMR intake (Factory cat back) These are my cam specs 236/250 .624/.624 on a 114. Its getting the final dyno tune right now at LMR (AWESOME BUNCH OF GUYS), Ill post up what the numbers are.

Here are a couple videos:
With LTH
http://youtu.be/sFv78n5wgL0

Just cam:
http://youtu.be/H_SEwoSwgPQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88 (Post 6724295)
Lol tell them to hurry up on this I really wanna see your numbers! And what you think of the setup. So tell them to STOP messing with GS vettes with the turbo farm truck during lunch lol. That poor vette had his feelings hurt!


Kelly@PCMofNC 06-28-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSMickey (Post 6717159)
I would call some of the more well known shops such as Vengeance, FSP, PCM, Jennety, Lethal or Rhino on here and discuss your goals with them. They are the experts, use there knowledge to your advantage. Nothing wrong with soliciting opinions on here, but your going to find that most will recommend what they already have. Also, you might want to consider a custom grind. A custom gring in most cases will be the same or just slightly more than an off the shelf grind. BTW, do you have an LS3 or L99 engine?

Thanks for the mention. We would be glad to help. Our '545' cam has been absolutely killing it lately, I can barely order them and install them fast enough. Makes 470-480 consistently with a good set of headers and cold air intake. Fantastic driveability, torquey, killer lope, and oh, did I mention it works well with blower cars too in case you change your mind down the road? :D I run this cam in my own car if that tells you anything.

Here's just one of the many,



Graph from a 2010 with rotofab, kooks, and '545.

http://pcmofnc.com/images/builds/wes2.jpg

Mutant Racer 06-29-2013 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litle88 (Post 6726698)
He told you that because you want to add a blower and that cam you have can be used but not the best.

The OP wants to CAM HARD so a cam in the 112 and other variables increased will make it cam HARD. LSX Camaro posted a video and that sounds nice, even untuned.

Yup it was posted.

Criag B 07-02-2013 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance (Post 6724112)
I would suggest doing a search on our "Kaotik" camshaft..I believe this camshaft would meet all of your criteria.

How's that cams street manners? Any bucking or surging in the lower RPM'S??


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