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Dropspeed 07-01-2013 07:56 AM

My 1LE on Scales: 3823lbs
 
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I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Camaro_Corvette 07-01-2013 08:06 AM

Great, I'll weigh my 2SS this week when it hits 3/4's of a tank of gas and see what the difference is. :D

tramtwo 07-01-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

Dropspeed 07-01-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6737864)
Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

I have no sunroof, no leather, no HIDs......not sure what those equal?

Not that it matters but I do have a clear bra on it so that may balance out the weight from removing the badges :)

KlugSS 07-01-2013 10:16 AM

Very cool! I need to weigh mine now. I have zero options, no splitter, and GM Performance track exhaust. Winder if I can get it to 36xx with as little as gas as possible.

Dropspeed 07-01-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738049)
Very cool! I need to weigh mine now. I have zero options, no splitter, and GM Performance track exhaust. Winder if I can get it to 36xx with as little as gas as possible.

Why no splitter?

KlugSS 07-01-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6738052)
Why no splitter?

Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

tramtwo 07-01-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738061)
Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

Head over to the market place, your unused new splitter will sell in about an hour if it is fairly priced. New they list for $750. :thumb:

1leNPP 07-01-2013 12:16 PM

If the 1SS would have came with manual seats I bet the car would be under 3800 lbs.

SUX2BU 07-01-2013 02:33 PM

Must be nice, my car completely stock was about 4,150 lbs with 3/4 of a tank. Ginger is a big girl.

1BadAction 07-01-2013 02:57 PM

How much does the NPP add? My car is 1LE and 1SS. No other options.

1LEMayhem 07-01-2013 05:30 PM

I think the NPP is lighter than the exhaust it replaces.

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt


Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LEMayhem (Post 6739576)
I think the NPP is lighter than the exhaust it replaces.

That's what I've heard, however no info.

Nutro 07-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 6739590)
Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

I'm guessing larger airbag, ABS controls, ECU, wiring etc

SUX2BU 07-01-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance (Post 6739590)
Any ideas why the passenger front is so much heavier (23 lbs) than the drivers front?

A 2% variance is no big deal. You measure another car and it might go the other way.

2cnd chance 07-01-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutro (Post 6739844)
I'm guessing larger airbag, ABS controls, ECU, wiring etc

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Originally Posted by SUX2BU (Post 6739860)
A 2% variance is no big deal. You measure another car and it might go the other way.

Thanks. Just wondering what the 23 lbs would be. Usually the drivers front is heavier in most cars. Isn't washer bottle drivers right?

toehead93 07-01-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo (Post 6737864)
Damn that is 44 pounds lighter than my 3867 invoiced weight on this 2SS and you have 3/4 of a tank of fuel!! :frusty:

What do you mean by invoiced weight? I'm not familiar with the term but if it is the same as the curb weight then it is calculated with a full tank of gas. Which would be about 35lbs so you'd be just 10lbs off, not 44lbs.

tramtwo 07-01-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by toehead93 (Post 6740619)
What do you mean by invoiced weight? I'm not familiar with the term but if it is the same as the curb weight then it is calculated with a full tank of gas. Which would be about 35lbs so you'd be just 10lbs off, not 44lbs.


On my invoice there was a weight for shipping purposes...

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...-25-41_324.jpg

KlugSS 07-16-2013 11:09 PM

Mine weighed in at 3740 with half a tank roughly 10 gallons.
1SS with GM Track Axle Back

I never was able to get pictures but hopefully soon I will throw it on the scales again with less fuel and get my 36xx pound weight.

Dropspeed 07-17-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6786908)
Mine weighed in at 3740 with half a tank roughly 10 gallons.
1SS with GM Track Axle Back

I never was able to get pictures but hopefully soon I will throw it on the scales again with less fuel and get my 36xx pound weight.

So lets say my 3/4 tank had 4 more gallons at about 6lbs per. Tht would put me just under 3800. I can't beleive the NPP weighs 60lbs more than the GM track back.

Did you weigh the car with the stock exhaust on it? Any options on the car at all? What kind of scales were used?

Thanks,
Matt

Phorecyte 07-17-2013 07:40 AM

I used to owe a Genesis 3.8 Coupe, which before looking into the camaro 1LE, I thought had to be significantly lighter and thus have a performance advantage. I even had the Track model. weighed in at 36xx i wanna say. But it was stock, 2012, so 306hp. Given the difference in weight and HP, the 1LE shits all over the Gen in straight line and corners. For everyone saying their 1LE weighs too much, my lighter, "more nimble" asian vehicle never pulled a G on the skidpad, ever. It under steered more, the power steering was not very helpful(very heavy steering wheel movement), and even the turning radius cant compare to the 1LE. If anything, going from a Gen coupe to a 1LE, There is wayyy less understeer, engine power and response are no comparison either. Sometimes I feel like Im driving a car lighter than my Gen was. As much as everyone complains about the quality of GM parts, the Gen coupe won so many different accolades and still can't come close to to the 1LE, even ruling out power and just accounting for the handling department.

In particular, the traction control made the car almost annoying to drive around town. Anytime I needed to step on it, the TC literally would cut power momentarily. IMHO, this is a safety concern, bc you never know when you NEED wheel spin or to whip the tail end around. One last bit, for everyone who thinks hyundai parts and vehicles are made with quality, my gen coupe had a laundry list of issues from a brand new car. Oil leak after oil leak yielded these repairs: Replaced both head gaskets, the entire head, the throttle body control system, the steering angle sensor, TC light would stay on(they said it was related to Steering angle sensor), the heater had issues... Total POS. Havent had a single issue with my 1LE, and couldn't be happier. Alot of the weight on a camaro has to do with the frame of the car though, gets 5 stars in all 4 categories, front, back, side, and rollover.

gajagfan 07-17-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KlugSS (Post 6738061)
Don't care for it. So I never put it on.

It is certainly up to you, and I am not trying to get in your business, but I was under the impression that front splitter was a big part of the handling of this car. Does that not make it worth putting on? I ask in case you or others have heard different and the splitter is only cosmetic, and does not figure in the handling.

KlugSS 07-17-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6787427)
So lets say my 3/4 tank had 4 more gallons at about 6lbs per. Tht would put me just under 3800. I can't beleive the NPP weighs 60lbs more than the GM track back.

Did you weigh the car with the stock exhaust on it? Any options on the car at all? What kind of scales were used?

Thanks,
Matt

I never weighed 100% stock. The car does not have a single option. The scales I used here probably aren't the best but have always been real close but in the next couple weeks I will be putting it on some real nice ones that I know are accurate. I will take a picture and everything to confirm it. Really hoping to get a 36xx.

TLSTWIN 07-17-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed (Post 6737625)
I was at Gingerman yesterday and put my 1LE on the scales: 3823Lbs

Details:
  • 1SS/1LE: NPP Exhaust, BA stereo, B/U camera are the only options
  • 3/4 tank of gas
  • All stock: wheels, tires, suspension, battery...ect.
  • All badges have been removed (1-2 lbs??) and floor mats were out...all stock items in the trunk were left in.
-Matt

Interesting, I never new that was there. I will have to check that out.

What did it cost if anything? and who did you talk to to get it on there?


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