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Secret Squirrel 07-01-2013 04:24 PM

low oil pressure warning...
 
I have yet to have a single issue with my 2010 LS3, and today, after getting home from work, I got back in the car to run errands and as soon as I started to back out of the drive way, my low oil pressure warning came on.
I installed a Mike Norris catch can last week, and I can't help but wonder if that could have anything to do with it. I had my oil changed less than 1k miles ago, and I am not leaking any oil. I just checked, and my oil is full. Any ideas what the problem could be? Is it possible that it is related to the catch can? Thanks.

The Stig 07-01-2013 04:32 PM

Shouldn't be related to the catch can, when you say you're oil is "full" I'm guessing you mean that it's within the marks on the dip stick? Are you checking your oil level when the engine is hot or when the engine is cold?

LSXaddict 07-01-2013 04:36 PM

I don't want to jump to conclusions but I have heard of the oil pumps going out on the 2010 LS3's

POWERFREAK 07-01-2013 04:44 PM

did you upgrade the oil pump when you did the cam install?

Kelly@PCMofNC 07-01-2013 04:49 PM

The catch can wouldn't impact that, unfortunately it may be the pump, is it stock?

slick rick 07-01-2013 04:59 PM

Mine turned out to be the Oil Pressure Relief Valve

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PIP4158C: Low Oil Pressure Due To Seized Oil Pressure Relief Valve - (Dec 29, 2009)


Subject: Low Oil Pump Pressure due to Seized Oil Pressure Relief Valve

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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:

Some customers may complain of low oil pressure, no oil pressure, and/or engine noise, which may be the result of a sticking oil pump pressure relief valve. In some instances, this may occur intermittently if the valve frees up when the engine cools down.
Recommendation/Instructions:

If SI diagnosis isolates low mechanical oil pressure at the oil filter housing and oil pressure sensor, replace the oil pump, flush the oil cooler lines (if equipped), clean the inside of the oil pan, change the oil and filter, and re-evaluate the concern.

Notice: If an engine noise is noticed after replacing the oil pump, follow the SI diagnosis and repair the engine as necessary.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.

litle88 07-01-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by slick rick (Post 6739480)
Mine turned out to be the Oil Pressure Relief Valve

That's the oil pump bro!

I'd say its the pump as well.

dekan513 07-01-2013 06:35 PM

same thing happen to me after about 8-10 thousand after cam. went to get a pizza . walked back out , started the car and display said no oil /low oil pressure. took to kyspeed and he help me fix it with a melling . i did the ls2 chain thing too . cause ive heard them going down pretty quick aswell . but ya its ur pump. most likely the relief valve going bad in the pump. but a new pump and ur good to go.

litle88 07-01-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LSXaddict (Post 6739400)
I don't want to jump to conclusions but I have heard of the oil pumps going out on the 2010 LS3's

They've been taking shits since 1998 sir.

dekan513 07-01-2013 07:12 PM

yep since the start of the ls . nothing new

SPCBA 07-01-2013 07:29 PM

please for the love of god do not drive it. melling makes a replacement that is affordable and diy capable job.

i have seen ls3 guys use l99 pumps as well.

Secret Squirrel 07-01-2013 07:43 PM

Thanks for the info. I shut it off the second the car told me to. Not worth taking the chance and making it a much more expensive fix. I called the dealership and they want to charge me $1700 to replace the pump. After much research, I am finding that my mods can not possibly have had any impact what-so-ever on my pump failing, so this may be a battle I fight with GM under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. We'll see. Worst case, our best performance shop in town is offering to install a Texas Speed ported pump for $600 out the door. Not fun for a part that should not fail, but I'm skeptical about replacing it with the same garbage pump that it has in it.

The worst part of this is that I am military and have orders to transfer next week. My car was supposed to get me from Florida to California. My piece of mind isn't at it's highest at this point. Crossing my fingers that I can get this thing all hammered out in time to roll out on schedule. Again, thanks for the info.

Secret Squirrel 07-01-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by slick rick (Post 6739480)
Mine turned out to be the Oil Pressure Relief Valve

Did GM cover it for you? Is your car modded? If you had to cover it, what did it run you?

Secret Squirrel 07-01-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stig (Post 6739388)
Shouldn't be related to the catch can, when you say you're oil is "full" I'm guessing you mean that it's within the marks on the dip stick? Are you checking your oil level when the engine is hot or when the engine is cold?

Both. Dealership changed it out less than 1k miles ago. By full, I meant, it is where it should be.

Denis 07-02-2013 07:18 AM

Shitty deal man. Sounds like the pump though.

Mind if I ask where in Cali you're going to be? I was stationed in Lemoore and I assume you're Navy if you're in p-cola.

wally mayfield 07-02-2013 07:26 AM

has GM resolved the problem?

Secret Squirrel 07-02-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Denis (Post 6741631)
Shitty deal man. Sounds like the pump though.

Mind if I ask where in Cali you're going to be? I was stationed in Lemoore and I assume you're Navy if you're in p-cola.

I'll be in San Diego.

Secret Squirrel 07-02-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield (Post 6741645)
has GM resolved the problem?

No. I was talking with one of the Customer Service reps on the forums last night and he was trying to work it out with the dealership here, but I haven't heard anything back just yet. I don't have faith that GM will do the right thing here, but you never know. Based on other people's experiences with the same thing, it isn't looking promising. I'll update once I know something concrete.

thahemp 07-02-2013 09:27 AM

Just FYI... you could replace the pump yourself with a Melling 10296 for $150 + new oil. Another $160 and you could do timing chain and LS2 damper too.

SPCBA 07-02-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel (Post 6741942)
No. I was talking with one of the Customer Service reps on the forums last night and he was trying to work it out with the dealership here, but I haven't heard anything back just yet. I don't have faith that GM will do the right thing here, but you never know. Based on other people's experiences with the same thing, it isn't looking promising. I'll update once I know something concrete.

GM had been replacing these things for a while now, its not that they dont want to its that a dealership has to report it right and want too.

goodluck and welcome to so cal when you get here...we have a very healthy and active car scene here! join the so cal region forum hope to see ya at events!

Secret Squirrel 07-02-2013 12:12 PM

I spoke with the dealership, and GM this morning. The dealership says that it is GM policy not to warranty any of it if engine components have been changed out with aftermarket parts. Oddly enough, GM customer service said that IS NOT the policy. The dealership says they have to get it in and diagnose it first (understandable) but have already said that they won't cover it even if they find that the mods have nothing to do with it. Good to know they are willing to go in objectively, right? They want $100 an hour to diagnose it, and they are saying $1700 to fix it. This is what they tell me even after GM customer service calls them. At this point, knowing that I am dealing with dishonest people, I'd rather just pay the performance shop the $600, get a better pump, and know that it will be done right.

Way to go GM!

thahemp 07-02-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel (Post 6742719)
I spoke with the dealership, and GM this morning. The dealership says that it is GM policy not to warranty any of it if engine components have been changed out with aftermarket parts. Oddly enough, GM customer service said that IS NOT the policy. The dealership says they have to get it in and diagnose it first (understandable) but have already said that they won't cover it even if they find that the mods have nothing to do with it. Good to know they are willing to go in objectively, right? They want $100 an hour to diagnose it, and they are saying $1700 to fix it. This is what they tell me even after GM customer service calls them. At this point, knowing that I am dealing with dishonest people, I'd rather just pay the performance shop the $600, get a better pump, and know that it will be done right.

Way to go GM!

You could also try some other dealerships. I agree you need to stay away from that one. Already smells like trouble. Aside from that... head to the speed shop with a melling pump in hand.

slick rick 07-02-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel (Post 6740104)
Did GM cover it for you? Is your car modded? If you had to cover it, what did it run you?

I used Onstar to call for a flatbed truck. They towed it to my local Chevy dealer who repaired it under warranty.

I had no mods to the engine.

wally mayfield 07-02-2013 01:46 PM

I'm assuming GM replaced the oil pump with another just like the failed on huh?

thahemp 07-02-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield (Post 6743103)
I'm assuming GM replaced the oil pump with another just like the failed on huh?

Of course they did. They're not going to re-warranty an aftermarket pump...


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