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5th_GEN_SS 07-02-2013 12:26 PM

1LE more rare than ZL1?
 
Found it interesting that it seems (at least in my areas of travel) there are a bunch more ZL1 cars as compared to 1LEs. The only other 1LE I have seen in the wild is a red one in Cleveland and I know the guy lol is this what other people have experienced? It also seems like dealers have more ZL1s sitting at the lot than the 1LE cars.

RonnieG 07-02-2013 12:39 PM

i'm hoping that's the case..

ZL1 has been out longer and being the high end, i'd think they'd sell more to the ones that will buy the highest trim out there... also the 1LE limits buyers since those unwilling to drive manual will have to look elsewhere.

All 7 of the dealerships I've been to have at least 1 ZL1 .. only 3 had a 1LE and only 1 had more than 1 (Rick Hendrick Chevy being the execption.. but they are the largest dealership in the southeast and said in the quarter they were leading the nation)

guess we'll find out when the official numbers come out

mlee 07-02-2013 12:41 PM

Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

Cleancoupe 07-02-2013 12:47 PM

I've seen a handful of ZL1's on the road & only 1 other 1LE besides mine on the road.

Boydr12 07-02-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6742568)
Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

Says the guy who owns a '12 ZL1...

Southern Comfort 07-02-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6742568)
Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

More rare than a COPO? oh that's right - they dont count.

I guess we'll see when someone officially announces the production figures for MY13.

btw - I think it was January before I saw any release of the previous year's model breakdown. This thread could get really long by then!

forklord 07-02-2013 02:24 PM

i still havent seen a 1le yet. theres just as many zl1s in my town as ss's and only 7000 people. like 5-6 of each

redsled 07-02-2013 02:39 PM

I see more than a few 1le camaros around metro Detroit. I dont know about more or less than the zl1 because I see those too.

SSMickey 07-02-2013 02:39 PM

From the comments I have heard around here, other than the enthusiast, most just don't understand what the 1LE is. They think it's just an SS that costs more. With the ZL1, they see the differences in the engine and the body styling and understand where the additional costs come from. They don't with the 1LE, and most sales men around here can't communicate the performance differences because they don't understand the car either.

DwRed1LTV6 07-02-2013 02:43 PM

Only 1LE's And ZL1's i have seen
have been at dealer ships ~

tramtwo 07-02-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6742568)
Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

ya think :dnftt:

el ess A 07-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SSMickey (Post 6743068)
They don't with the 1LE, and most sales men around here can't communicate the performance differences because they don't understand the car either.

Truth spoken. Not all, but a good many. A local salesman didn't even know what one was. He kept "correcting" me saying I must mean ZL1 because it has the 550 HP engine and was made for drag racing. :crazy:

Bozz1LE 07-02-2013 03:43 PM

There were around 2000, 2012 ZL1's built and im sure the number of 1LE's will be under 1500, so yes the 2013 1LE equipped SS will be rarer than the ZL1. I have friends who work at the Oshawa plant and we met up last weekend at a car show and they said they notice a bit more ZL1's going off the line than the 1LE.

jcieutat 07-02-2013 03:49 PM

All of this is great but I would gladly trade my rarer 1LE for a less rare ZL1!

rickr9504 07-02-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jcieutat (Post 6743389)
All of this is great but I would gladly trade my rarer 1LE for a less rare ZL1!

:amen:

Austin45 07-02-2013 05:16 PM

I've seen a handful of ZL1s but not a single 1LE. Kinda disappointing.

alex70olds 07-02-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6742568)
Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

OMG did I lol. Mike, what did you have before your Z ? Too funny! :headbang::first:

Boydr12 07-02-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alex70olds (Post 6743826)
OMG did I lol. Mike, what did you have before your Z ? Too funny! :headbang::first:

#1

mlee 07-02-2013 05:59 PM

We do have more ZL1's in our club than 1LE's but the 1LE numbers are growing faster now.

How's that for getting it back on track.

Sorry OP... we got a little crazy there, cleaned up and back to regularly scheduled programming

mlee 07-02-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southern Comfort (Post 6742970)
More rare than a COPO? oh that's right - they dont count.

I guess we'll see when someone officially announces the production figures for MY13.

btw - I think it was January before I saw any release of the previous year's model breakdown. This thread could get really long by then!

Actually the Synergy Edition and maybe Hot Wheels or Dusk could rank up there too. COPO counts in my book..:headbang:

aggieguy13 07-02-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee (Post 6742568)
Besides the 2010 Pace Car the 12 ZL1 will be the rarest of all.

2013 COPO :-p

haha i posted from first page just saw the comment above ^^^^

cam99 07-02-2013 06:38 PM

I have yet to see another zl1(other than mine) or 1le out in the wild around me, so I guess more ZL1's for right now. LOL

BRMike 07-02-2013 06:53 PM

I've seen just one 1LE on the road in my area. In my humble opinion, the transmission has everything to do with the take rate. It's fairly rare to find a manual transmission equipped Camaro in this area. Even the ZL1's are nearly all auto cars.

mlee 07-02-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRMike (Post 6744162)
I've seen just one 1LE on the road in my area. In my humble opinion, the transmission has everything to do with the take rate. It's fairly rare to find a manual transmission equipped Camaro in this area. Even the ZL1's are nearly all auto cars.

That is a good point... Auto Trans is a big hit as an option in the Z. The Shelby doesn't even have that.

Southern Comfort 07-02-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozz1LE (Post 6743363)
There were around 2000, 2012 ZL1's built and im sure the number of 1LE's will be under 1500, so yes the 2013 1LE equipped SS will be rarer than the ZL1. I have friends who work at the Oshawa plant and we met up last weekend at a car show and they said they notice a bit more ZL1's going off the line than the 1LE.

ZL1 vins are nearly 8000 for MY13.


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