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Mikamaro 07-09-2013 09:32 PM

2010 SS vs 2011 M3
 
Inside Gewow's M3 chasing me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvB9g...dazy1DmlTsB3mA

Inside my 2010 SS running from..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5raIQ_ks-uk


The M3 has a big brake kit and a track alignment of -2 camber with track rubber.

My SS has a square setup on Nitto NT05 rubbers and a GMPP performance exhaust with solo HF cats.

He has almost 2 seconds per lap on a 2 minutes lap on me...I'm wondering if I had a track alignment I could match his time?

L99CAMA2011 07-10-2013 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikamaro (Post 6769114)
Inside Gewow's M3 chasing me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5raI...e_gdata_player

Inside my 2010 SS running from..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5raI...e_gdata_player

The M3 has a big brake kit and a track alignment of -2 camber with track rubber.

My SS has nitto NT05 rubbers and a performance exhaust.

He has about 2 seconds per lap on me...I'm wondering if I had a track alignment I could match his time?

What about your suspension. Is it stock?

Mikamaro 07-10-2013 07:34 AM

Yes it's stock. It will be upgraded wih the 1LE track pack soon. But until then Im wondering if an alignment would be enought to match the M3.

3rdgen3 07-10-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikamaro (Post 6770389)
Yes it's stock. It will be upgraded wih the 1LE track pack soon. But until then Im wondering if an alignment would be enought to match the M3.

No.

If you want to match his time then you need to be on an even playing field. NT05's are no where near as good as "track tires". R-comp tires can turn your everyday ordinary car into a handling machine on the track! Now slap those tires on a car with an already good suspension (M3, 5th gen, etc) and watch it shine, as you saw with your friends M3.

An alignment helps, but tires, shocks, springs and swaybars combined will help even more.

An FE6/1LE suspension upgrade will definitely help even out the playing field but R-comp tires will make the BIGGEST/most difference.

trademaster 07-10-2013 08:50 AM

What are the stock alignment specs on the SS? An alignment always helps. A better tire will help tremendously, but r-comps can give you less obvious feedback so unless you have a decent amount of experience they can give you a good scare the first few times you really push them.

Mikamaro 07-10-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by trademaster (Post 6770496)
What are the stock alignment specs on the SS? An alignment always helps. A better tire will help tremendously, but r-comps can give you less obvious feedback so unless you have a decent amount of experience they can give you a good scare the first few times you really push them.

So I've been told...I'm not going this route anyway soon since this car is also a DD and I'm not equiped to switch tires before each events I go...so NT05 or Michelin Super Sport are the tires of choice for now. Stock Alignment is Neutral. no camber what so ever.

Mikamaro 07-10-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rdgen3 (Post 6770468)
No.

If you want to match his time then you need to be on an even playing field. NT05's are no where near as good as "track tires". R-comp tires can turn your everyday ordinary car into a handling machine on the track! Now slap those tires on a car with an already good suspension (M3, 5th gen, etc) and watch it shine, as you saw with your friends M3.

An alignment helps, but tires, shocks, springs and swaybars combined will help even more.

An FE6/1LE suspension upgrade will definitely help even out the playing field but R-comp tires will make the BIGGEST/most difference.

Can't wait to get install the FE6 track pack...

trademaster 07-10-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikamaro (Post 6770606)
So I've been told...I'm not going this route anyway soon since this car is also a DD and I'm not equiped to switch tires before each events I go...so NT05 or Michelin Super Sport are the tires of choice for now. Stock Alignment is Neutral. no camber what so ever.

The alignment depends a lot on what you desire from the car and I have never driven an SS on track, so I can't give you too much advice there. Typically a bit more camber in front than in the rear and maximum caster make a big difference in the right direction. Send a PM to one of the suspension vendors, they can give you good alignment info.

L99CAMA2011 07-16-2013 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by trademaster (Post 6771408)
The alignment depends a lot on what you desire from the car and I have never driven an SS on track, so I can't give you too much advice there. Typically a bit more camber in front than in the rear and maximum caster make a big difference in the right direction. Send a PM to one of the suspension vendors, they can give you good alignment info.

Send a PM to one of the suspension vendors. Justice will be served. Justice......Justiceeeeeeeee


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