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Botoasy 07-25-2013 06:22 PM

Trifecta Tune
 
I have this tune on my car as of the moment only for the headers, is IPF proven to have horsepower gains because I am just not feeling this tune.

Decepticon21 07-25-2013 07:26 PM

Did you do a log file and send it in after your headers were installed?

menendez1293 07-25-2013 08:46 PM

From the few people that have done the IPF it has been shown to give more HP gains than the trifecta. Most of the modded 6s have all agreed that tirfecta is a glorified way of taking off the CEL that comes with headers. Most people have said that there cars are running better without the tune.

Cmitopgun 07-25-2013 09:03 PM

Im about to install long tube headers soon myself. Is there a different way to clear the CEL without a tuner like trifecta?

menendez1293 07-25-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmitopgun (Post 6821120)
Im about to install long tube headers soon myself. Is there a different way to clear the CEL without a tuner like trifecta?

Unless you use a code reader each time the code come sup no. You have the choice between IPF, hypertech, trifecta, and the code reader

Swarm 07-25-2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menendez1293 (Post 6821027)
Most people have said that there cars are running better without the tune.

What?!

KalCorp 07-25-2013 10:36 PM

Trifecta Tune
 
I for one feel the difference with trifecta tune over stock. And they do list HP gains just like IPF.

And anytime you reload the EUC on our LLT's it always feels like it runs better. need to wait some time before comparing it.

You can even log it and/or monitor it yourself to see if there are issues.



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menendez1293 07-25-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swarm (Post 6821409)
What?!

Almost all the frequent posters in the V6 lounge have had more problems than its worth with trifecta

'11CamaroLS 07-26-2013 12:54 AM

when I originally got my Trifecta tune I felt the gains. but after I did more mods I went back to stock for an issue I had, and when I retuned I didn't feel it really. Now as far as how my car runs, it runs great with my tune, I don't feel like ive lost power, and my mileage if I don't use ghost cam isn't negatively affected.

pgustavson 07-26-2013 09:19 AM

I have yet to be "WOW'd" by any mods performance-wise. (My butt-dyno must be getting fat, old, and cynical...) I must say that the Trifecta transmission tune came the closest though. A close second is the Vararam - not for the performance - but for the change in sound at WOT. I haven't had any issues with the Trifecta tune, my car is running well; but I've read about people feeling that things got better for them after taking it off. I must admit I would like to get an wideband AFR gauge on the car because I've also read about a lean-running issue one member on here had with a Trifecta tune. But that may have been particular to his car/application.

PoorMansCamaro 07-26-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by menendez1293 (Post 6821238)
Unless you use a code reader each time the code come sup no. You have the choice between IPF, hypertech, trifecta, and the code reader

the code reader won't help much. you can clear it, but it will turn right back on, in a matter of seconds or minutes.

PoorMansCamaro 07-26-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pgustavson (Post 6822443)
I have yet to be "WOW'd" by any mods performance-wise. (My butt-dyno must be getting fat, old, and cynical...) I must say that the Trifecta transmission tune came the closest though. A close second is the Vararam - not for the performance - but for the change in sound at WOT. I haven't had any issues with the Trifecta tune, my car is running well; but I've read about people feeling that things got better for them after taking it off. I must admit I would like to get an wideband AFR gauge on the car because I've also read about a lean-running issue one member on here had with a Trifecta tune. But that may have been particular to his car/application.

you should try nitrous then. lol you'll "WOW". :D

its a syn 07-26-2013 09:42 AM

As gustavson said, tran tune is the most noticeable. I have Injen longtube CAI, Ported throttle body when the tune was installed. Have added the ice-olater and need to get a data log back to them to see if it needs adjusting. Mostly I think it is tying all the mods together and making them play nice. Ipf does a great job also.

pgustavson 07-26-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro (Post 6822485)
you should try nitrous then. lol you'll "WOW". :D

:eyebulge:- wwwwwow!!!:laugh:

OOLIE 07-26-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by menendez1293 (Post 6821652)
Almost all the frequent posters in the V6 lounge have had more problems than its worth with trifecta

I have had trifecta for over 3 years very happy with how my car runs. Can't speak for anyone else. ;)

KMPrenger 07-26-2013 10:54 AM

I wasn't UN Happy with the Trifecta tune...but then againt I can't say I was ever completely satisfied with it either. Now that I'm on the stock tune again and have been months I can honestly say I have no desire to have the tune back. I even sold my cable. Car runs just as crisp and strong as it ever has.

I'm not saying Trifecta absolutely has ZERO gains. Obviously there are dynos out there showing it made power. Stock and modded. There are also dynos (one or two) showing a loss versus stock, and others who say the same as me...feel no difference.

I will go so far as to say... even though there are not as many IPF dynos floating around, they have consistently showed better gains than Trifecta. I'd love to give the IPF tune a go, and I hope to sometime soon (soon means...could be a long time from now lol)...but I have so many other goals, and things I want to do that its putting a tune a bit further down on the list.

Agarc 07-26-2013 11:06 AM

i dont believe in anything anymore lol... i know on my 08 gt the sct tuner was like 300 something bucks and u felt that shit when u tuned the car..

CamaroV6 07-26-2013 11:51 AM

Ive had trifecta for over a year now...I had my car dynoed before and after,the tune gave me NO POWER what so ever but on the dyno report it did make the TQ and HP curves a lot smoother.

solteroblues 07-26-2013 12:45 PM

I felt no gains from any of mods until after the trifecta. It was like it woke the other mods up. I may be in the minority, but I say it was worth every penny. I even get about 2 mpg more now than stock.

PieNsky 08-01-2013 03:58 PM

I saw a dyno sheet with a graph of one tuner where it lost HP and TQ down low, but made more HP on the top end. HP = (TQ•RPM)/5252 ? A dyno reads TQ and the math formula converts it to HP. Since Horsepower is TQ times RPM, divided by 5252, the higher the RPM at the same TQ would have higher HP.

Patrick864 RS 08-01-2013 04:05 PM

I had the Trifecta tune for about a year and I didnt have any problems...I thought it was one of the best mods I did. I took it off 2 days ago and it seems the car runs more "smooth" but I can tell a difference in the gearing for my automatic. IPF, well I wont be able to help you with that opinion since the supercharger is going along with it lol It seems like it is pretty advance though and I havent heard one person complain about the IPF. Trifecta has been slammed and its pretty hard to get in touch, which is one of the downsides.

Wilson_51 08-04-2013 12:51 PM

I have the Hypertech max energy programmer on my car and I can defiantly tell its there. It may not add any more HP but with being able to change shift points, shift firmness, and rev limiter it makes a difference. It feels like I'm getting more response from my car now. The only thing I don't like about its is the lack of being able to turn my speed limiter off. So I just say that my tire height has changed and that gives me 5 extra mph. Haha so instead of 118 it's 123. I've been thinking about maybe trying something else but I'm not real sure what I should go with yet

lscamaro 08-04-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menendez1293 (Post 6821652)
Almost all the frequent posters in the V6 lounge have had more problems than its worth with trifecta

Quote:

Originally Posted by KalCorp (Post 6821432)
I for one feel the difference with trifecta tune over stock. And they do list HP gains just like IPF.

And anytime you reload the EUC on our LLT's it always feels like it runs better. need to wait some time before comparing it.

You can even log it and/or monitor it yourself to see if there are issues.



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I've tested the trifecta tune and the stock tune on the track and the stock tune posted better times.

rtcat600man 08-05-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro (Post 6856170)
I've tested the trifecta tune and the stock tune on the track and the stock tune posted better times.


This is the first time I ever heard this.

Still have the time slips so we can study them?

I was thinking of performing the same test this fall. Make some runs with it installed. Drive around for a while then remove it. And make more runs.

I also have heard it will take 100 miles for the sytem to reset and under stand what happened.

Maybe disconnect the battery for an hour while there before both testing runs?

I have no issue with my tune, but never did my own testing either.

Botoasy 08-05-2013 07:46 PM

Another random question, could I keep the stock tune on my car and use the trifecta software to just clear it permanently?


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