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Phorecyte 08-10-2013 03:24 AM

Whipple capable of 550whp on stock internals?
 
I'm reading about the 2.9L Whipple S/C and it says it can push 550-600whp on a stock LS3 motor. The kit comes with upgraded injectors and i guess a fuel rail/fuel rail mod of some kind, but it clearly says those HP numbers can be attained on a completely stock LS3, has anyone on here achieved these kind of numbers on a stock motor, and if so, was it reliable? Did any parts break as a result? J/W, all these folks get all kinds of engine parts w/o a S/C and only get around 450whp, seems like getting a whipple would give me everything I want without having to install all kinds of other parts.

376LS3 08-10-2013 04:46 AM

I think 550whp is like the minimum most supercharged cars put out. Theres N/A cam cars out there that are over 500whp. Not sure where you have seen 450whp supercharged cars, unless they're pushing 5psi or something. 600whp is easily obtainable on a stock engine with S/C.

10aSSee D 08-10-2013 07:51 AM

Yes it is possible if you get a custom tune and not the canned tune from whipple.

Unreal 08-10-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 376LS3 (Post 6881384)
I think 550whp is like the minimum most supercharged cars put out. Theres N/A cam cars out there that are over 500whp. Not sure where you have seen 450whp supercharged cars, unless they're pushing 5psi or something. 600whp is easily obtainable on a stock engine with S/C.

Check again. A maggie on an auto car will do 450-470 and 490-500 on a stock car. Whipple just a bit more. Now if you add headers, custom tune, pulley down, etc the numbers go way up but bone stock with the supplied calibration I don't think any of them do 550rwhp.

grocerygetter 08-10-2013 08:12 AM

Yeah..auto cars...tranny eats up power but at the drag strip it won't look that way. Op has a manual...I'd bet low 5s out the box depending on your dyno. And if you don't know, dynos may swing 50whp themselves one to another.

dan0617 08-10-2013 08:24 AM

Blower kit, headers, CAI, custom tune and you will be pushing 600 rwhp with a manual.

The stock internals can handle all the power that would be usable on the street.

dekan513 08-10-2013 09:20 AM

with supporting mods u can go anywhere from hi 400's to 800's . im not a supercharger guy but whipple is the way to go i think if ur lookin for that style .

NicKey 08-10-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phorecyte (Post 6881346)
I'm reading about the 2.9L Whipple S/C and it says it can push 550-600whp on a stock LS3 motor. The kit comes with upgraded injectors and i guess a fuel rail/fuel rail mod of some kind, but it clearly says those HP numbers can be attained on a completely stock LS3, has anyone on here achieved these kind of numbers on a stock motor, and if so, was it reliable? Did any parts break as a result? J/W, all these folks get all kinds of engine parts w/o a S/C and only get around 450whp, seems like getting a whipple would give me everything I want without having to install all kinds of other parts.


Yes, your LS3 can easily obtain 550 plus HP, by bolting on a Whipple / Kit.

Longevity of your engine will not necessarily be adversley affected, based of course on how you use and drive the car.

BooSSted 08-10-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 6881586)
Check again. A maggie on an auto car will do 450-470 and 490-500 on a stock car. Whipple just a bit more. Now if you add headers, custom tune, pulley down, etc the numbers go way up but bone stock with the supplied calibration I don't think any of them do 550rwhp.



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KARBON 08-10-2013 01:10 PM

How your bottom end last is highly dependent on the fuel system and tune. I have an L99 with 850 RWHP and it is set right around 700 RWHP for the street and it is my daily driver on a stock bottom end. But at the end of the day we all know forged is the way to go, and eventually is inevitable.

Phorecyte 08-10-2013 01:26 PM

wurrrrd. thanks guys. I'ma have to stack my pennies for a little while anyways if i want this. My dealer is willing to honor my warranty as long as they install the blower, so it's def got a good outlook.

gnturboray 08-10-2013 02:06 PM

When I first started the mods I had a maggie kit (5.5lbs boost), SLP catback and Roto-fab with a dyno-tune and I was putting down 521rwhp. The internals were stock and the and the fuel pump was stock. On an LS3 with 10 or 11 lbs boost you can achieve the 600hp level but you will need to go with bigger injectors than the Whipple kit comes with and a ZL1 fuel pump or a BAP at minimum.

Phorecyte 08-10-2013 03:26 PM

1LE comes with ZL1 Fuel Pump, ya dig?

grocerygetter 08-10-2013 03:53 PM

correct...but you need the ADM fpcm and then the kit of your choice. Talk to andy at ADM...he will steer you straight on the fpcm.

BLACK10 08-10-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KARBON (Post 6882413)
How your bottom end last is highly dependent on the fuel system and tune. I have an L99 with 850 RWHP and it is set right around 700 RWHP for the street and it is my daily driver on a stock bottom end. But at the end of the day we all know forged is the way to go, and eventually is inevitable.

Its awesome to have clients that understand their cars :bow:

BigMatt 08-10-2013 07:22 PM

675 hp here and it's my dd. See sig for mods.

376LS3 08-10-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 6881586)
Check again. A maggie on an auto car will do 450-470 and 490-500 on a stock car. Whipple just a bit more. Now if you add headers, custom tune, pulley down, etc the numbers go way up but bone stock with the supplied calibration I don't think any of them do 550rwhp.

I assumed all supporting mods were a given. He said a stock LS3 engine. I was going with stock internals and such, wasnt talking about a 100% bone stock car. Good call though.....

Indyblue98 08-10-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phorecyte (Post 6881346)
I'm reading about the 2.9L Whipple S/C and it says it can push 550-600whp on a stock LS3 motor. The kit comes with upgraded injectors and i guess a fuel rail/fuel rail mod of some kind, but it clearly says those HP numbers can be attained on a completely stock LS3, has anyone on here achieved these kind of numbers on a stock motor, and if so, was it reliable? Did any parts break as a result? J/W, all these folks get all kinds of engine parts w/o a S/C and only get around 450whp, seems like getting a whipple would give me everything I want without having to install all kinds of other parts.

I read similar claims from mutiple vendors ...530 RWHP on a Stock L99

However , my suggestion is to contact Whipple direct,
what I was told 18 months ago by the Whipple Rep was 440-460 on an L99
and 490-510 on a LS3 .

Before headers I was at 456 ...From a reputable installer.
After Headers and a Pulley change I am at 505 and 8-9 lbs boost.

TRC-SS 08-11-2013 04:37 PM

I ended up with the new style SLP TVS2300. They offered a 3 year 36K powertrain warranty with the blower drop on only. I was tossing between the whipple and TVS. Kinda wish i went whipple cause its a bigger supercharger but i got the cheaper one and had the warranty.

In the end my LS3 with the SLP TVS2300 drop on only (no headers, no cai ect) supercharger only with canned SLP tune, made 502 RWHP.

So with the drop on Whipple only i would imagine you would be right at that 550RWhp mark, esspecially with a custom tune, Add headers CAI and fuel work and youll be over 600rwhp.

My goals are to pay off what i have, then add JRE Cam, headers, CAI, bigger injectors, smaller pulley, custom tune and should be in the ballpark of 675RHWP

Inferno LSX 08-11-2013 04:43 PM

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I've been at least 630RWHP for the last 2 years with a Whipple. I recently added 102mm TB and meth and now making 677RWHP. I know it wasn't the most reliable power level so I order one of these bad boys.
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10aSSee D 08-11-2013 08:08 PM

Nice!

CamaroI 08-11-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TRC-SS (Post 6886216)
I ended up with the new style SLP TVS2300. They offered a 3 year 36K powertrain warranty with the blower drop on only. I was tossing between the whipple and TVS. Kinda wish i went whipple cause its a bigger supercharger but i got the cheaper one and had the warranty.

In the end my LS3 with the SLP TVS2300 drop on only (no headers, no cai ect) supercharger only with canned SLP tune, made 502 RWHP.

So with the drop on Whipple only i would imagine you would be right at that 550RWhp mark, esspecially with a custom tune, Add headers CAI and fuel work and youll be over 600rwhp.

My goals are to pay off what i have, then add JRE Cam, headers, CAI, bigger injectors, smaller pulley, custom tune and should be in the ballpark of 675RHWP

Not sure how many Benjamin's it cost ya with SLP, but I was approached by SLP to do exact setup you have..I had more miles on mine at 16,000 and they wanted a large amount of money for the conversion without placing other items.
I have an L99 but looking at doing the LS3 conversion with Whipple which would be nearing 700 hp. I already have CAI, Headers and Long tubes. Turn key would be less than 12,000.

CamaroI 08-11-2013 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indyblue98 (Post 6883394)
I read similar claims from mutiple vendors ...530 RWHP on a Stock L99

However , my suggestion is to contact Whipple direct,
what I was told 18 months ago by the Whipple Rep was 440-460 on an L99
and 490-510 on a LS3 .

Before headers I was at 456 ...From a reputable installer.
After Headers and a Pulley change I am at 505 and 8-9 lbs boost.

I have the L99 currently with Headers, Long Tubes, CAI and Tune. Here is my sheet below...

I was told if doing Whipple only along with current mods it would near 500 HP but doing the LS3 conversion with Whipple would put well over 600 HP

http://hornfrogs.zenfolio.com/img/s9...24231196-4.jpg

halo8hkk 08-11-2013 09:41 PM

I'm at 618 on mine with just a CAI, whipple and a good tune.

CamaroI 08-18-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halo8hkk (Post 6887285)
I'm at 618 on mine with just a CAI, whipple and a good tune.

On an l99 or ls3


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