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bigssc 09-24-2013 09:46 AM

question for L99 guys..
 
installed my cold air inductions intake and i love it but heres my question, when im at slow speeds and than i step on a little bit so i can go a little faster i hear a noise ive never heard before, its almost like a "swoosh thud" if that makes any sense what so ever lol its hard to describe. it doesnt sound serious at all but my old K&N intake i never heard this sound. i also dont have my car tuned yet and my other mods in my sig havent been installed yet. so im thinking because i went from a plastic k&n to a metal CAI that im hearing the cylinders turn on and off because of AFM? i used to have a range v8 but i sold it because im getting my mods this week and im tuning it next week. i think im being a little paranoid but has anyone else heard a weird noise from a new METAL intake and having AFM still on? :lol: just making sure its from the change of intake being that metal intakes are louder and echo more engine noise and my AFM is no longer disabled. its not throwing any codes and it runs great just so you know. i hate AFM i cant wait to have it off for good!

Denis 09-24-2013 09:51 AM

ummm idk about that. the AFM transition shouldnt have a "clunk" associated with it.

tohper 09-24-2013 09:54 AM

I have the same intake as u op. Also have a range. Ill listen to it when i get off work and let ya know.

bigssc 09-24-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Denis (Post 7031776)
ummm idk about that. the AFM transition shouldnt have a "clunk" associated with it.

its not like a hard clunk im just describing the sound very terribly lol its more like a swoosh-thud lol very light and only happens when im at very low speeds and than give it gas to speed up and it didnt happen and i never heard it when i had my range v8.

bigssc 09-24-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tohper (Post 7031785)
I have the same intake as u op. Also have a range. Ill listen to it when i get off work and let ya know.

ok great unplug the range and see if u hear what i hear. its only at very low speeds between 20 and 30mph and then just give it a little gas to start speeding up its a very light sound most people probably wouldnt even hear it lol and like i said i never heard this with my range plugged in

FanDamNCSU 09-24-2013 10:41 AM

Probably is AFM. I can hear when my AFM kicks in.

vroomapunk 09-24-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigssc (Post 7031806)
its not like a hard clunk im just describing the sound very terribly lol its more like a swoosh-thud lol very light and only happens when im at very low speeds and than give it gas to speed up and it didnt happen and i never heard it when i had my range v8.

Swoosh thud is a good description.

Its the intake sucking up a bunch of air, then you abruptly letting off the throttle so the pressure changes drastically and has to go somewhere.

The CAI inc cai is a sealed box, so itll make this sound more dramatic than the K&N because of even less of a place for the pressure to go.

I get the exact same noise when shutting my car off, everytime. I dont hear it when im driving really, but I have headers and loud exhaust.

Next time you turn the car off, roll the window down and listen for it, if its the same noise you hear when you drive, then its normal!

MrWray 09-24-2013 12:20 PM

Ive got the CAI on mine and ive never heard a clunking noise

bigssc 09-24-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWray (Post 7032288)
Ive got the CAI on mine and ive never heard a clunking noise

like i said in above comments its not a clunk its more of a "swoosh thud" lol if that makes any sense. what ever im not worried it must be normal because the car runs perfect and only has 2,800 miles on it. its def from the new intake and taking out the range v8. i put on the range v8 at 700 miles so i never really experienced much of the AFM and its weird bullshit that it causes. im sure once its tuned i will never hear it again because the AFM will then forever be turned off.

vroomapunk 09-24-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bigssc (Post 7032360)
like i said in above comments its not a clunk its more of a "swoosh thud" lol if that makes any sense. what ever im not worried it must be normal because the car runs perfect and only has 2,800 miles on it. its def from the new intake and taking out the range v8. i put on the range v8 at 700 miles so i never really experienced much of the AFM and its weird bullshit that it causes. im sure once its tuned i will never hear it again because the AFM will then forever be turned off.

Read my comment above, I believe it is normal operation of the CAI, I get the same noise when I turn my car off and its perfectly normal.

bigssc 09-24-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vroomapunk (Post 7032370)
Read my comment above, I believe it is normal operation of the CAI, I get the same noise when I turn my car off and its perfectly normal.

thank you! i read it and i appreciate the help and my worries have been soothed
:lol:

danl 09-24-2013 01:05 PM

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JRE tune took care of that dam AFM for me!
:)

that AFM noise became worse when I deleted the resonator, and put a 3" exhaust with X pipe....Tried to live with the sports mode shifting thingy, but that got old real quick.
Good Ol Ted at JRE, his tune killed that awful AFM, and helped with the shift points, and keeps my radiator temp no higher than 198, even in Hot Ass So Cal summer.
This is the sound, and performance Chevy should have gave this car from the factory.
With the Vmax TB, and K&N cia, this car kicks ass over lexus, Infinity, BMW, Chally, 4.6L mustangs, ( have not had the chance to dice with the new 5.0) on the freeways. its amazing to just 'walk away' from these guys in their so called luxury cars. I think they watch these commercials, and actually believe they can blow away everyone while lapping in the luxury of their cars. . . then they meet the JSB Camaro, blue devil!

markmass 09-24-2013 01:11 PM

I think your in good shape - you will definitely hear more air being sucked in, there's your 'whoosh' the 'thud' may just be the air in the intake bouncing around, should not really be 'thud'. My first mod was the CAI, i really cant remember a 'thud'
Not sure about the responses about AFM, that will not kick in under acceleration but I had mine tuned out long ago, plus bad memory....

Kiteboarder85 09-24-2013 01:22 PM

Def normal. LIke the comment above, its the noise like when your turn off your car and your CAI sounds like it sighs before it goes to bed.

The Blue Angel 09-24-2013 02:05 PM

The sound you hear the the sudden stop of the rushing air going into the engine. I freaked out the first time I heard this sound. But now I love hearing that sound when i go WOT!!

PalmerGA 09-24-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWray (Post 7032288)
Ive got the CAI on mine and ive never heard a clunking noise

Me either... but I love the swoosh! :happyanim:

GMTool 09-24-2013 05:00 PM

After I put headers on any noise from the CAI, (sucking air or swoosh noises) went away. Not that I did not like the CAI noises. It's just that the headers changed everything.:biggrin: I never heard a thud, but I never had my CAI on without a tune.
Try going out and driving in manual mode using paddle shifters so AFM won't kick in and see if you hear the thud.

bigssc 09-24-2013 05:09 PM

you guys are mistaking the swoosh or rush or air of WOT to what im talking about. im talking about at low speeds like 10 mph and then i accelerate very slowly to lets say 20mph i hear a little weird noise. but we have already established its from my new metal intake and having AFM still on.

i love the sound of the air moving harder because of the intake, but thats not the noise i am speaking of.

GMTool 09-24-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigssc (Post 7033132)
you guys are mistaking the swoosh or rush or air of WOT to what im talking about. im talking about at low speeds like 10 mph and then i accelerate very slowly to lets say 20mph i hear a little weird noise. but we have already established its from my new metal intake and having AFM still on.

i love the sound of the air moving harder because of the intake, but thats not the noise i am speaking of.

Go for a ride and see if it makes the thud using tap shift. AFM will not kick in when in that mode. Unless you are 100% certain that the noise you hear is AFM, which it no doubt is.
Anyways, after you get headers, exhaust and a tune, you are going to think you have a different car. Get ready to fall in love with your Camaro all over again. It will be the beast you thought you bought.:nod:

Frank in MD 09-24-2013 05:21 PM

I've never heard anything other than the roar of the engine.

MrWray 09-24-2013 09:28 PM

After my longtubes i went about 3 weeks without a tune, the damn AFM was unbearable, headers magnify AFM like X10. After the tune my wife is scared to ride in it now, she said that it went from fast to HOLY S@!# fast. The other day I turned onto a vacant highway and as soon as i straightened up i punched it, burnt rubber through 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd "tapshifting"

The car goes straight up beastmode now :D

MrPace 09-24-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigssc (Post 7033132)
you guys are mistaking the swoosh or rush or air of WOT to what im talking about. im talking about at low speeds like 10 mph and then i accelerate very slowly to lets say 20mph i hear a little weird noise. but we have already established its from my new metal intake and having AFM still on.

i love the sound of the air moving harder because of the intake, but thats not the noise i am speaking of.

Are you sure that what you're hearing isn't the AFM kicking in? It kicks in even at those low speeds...for me, (SS L99) I would hear that "weird sound" of the AFM right after it went to 3rd gear...accelerating slowly...

I am running the stock air intake, so take this for what it's worth...but the AFM kicking in could be described (incorrectly as you acknowledge) as a bit thudish.

markmass 10-04-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bigssc (Post 7033132)
you guys are mistaking the swoosh or rush or air of WOT to what im talking about. im talking about at low speeds like 10 mph and then i accelerate very slowly to lets say 20mph i hear a little weird noise. but we have already established its from my new metal intake and having AFM still on.

i love the sound of the air moving harder because of the intake, but thats not the noise i am speaking of.

Interesting thread for you....
http://chevroletforum.com/forum/taho...nt-woes-57022/
3rd para...

bigssc 10-04-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by markmass (Post 7062343)
Interesting thread for you....
http://chevroletforum.com/forum/taho...nt-woes-57022/
3rd para...

yes! but since i posted this thread i have figured out what the sound is... its the damn car going from 4cyl mode to 8cyl mode.. I CANNOT WAIT TO GET THE AFM SHIT TURNED OFF FOREVER :lol: im sorry but anything that turns off half the motor CONSTANTLY cannot be good for it. i understand why they did it but its STUPID. this tune can not come soon enough.

Denis 10-04-2013 09:40 AM

idk man...i dont think your AFM is active at that low of a speed. i mean it really only comes on when you're at a cruising speed right? try driving with the paddle shifters, this will keep the AFM from activating and see if that sound still happens.


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