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Tran 11-18-2013 01:09 PM

1LE/ ZL1 production temporary suspension effective Nov 21
 
Effective Thursday, November 21, 2013, Chevrolet will temporarily suspend order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 model and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) due to the effect of cold weather on the performance tires for these models. Again, it is only a temporary suspension that does not impact the Camaro LS, LT and SS models ordered without 1LE.

Order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) will resume on Tuesday, February 11, 2014.

The suspension of ordering will impact Camaro production from January 2014 to March 2014. It is expected any ZL1 or SS models with the Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) produced through December 2013 will be shipped to dealers.

The other ordering issue involves the 2014 Camaro Convertible beige top (RPO: 67T). The beige convertible top will end production for the 2014 model year during the month of January 2014 -- due to our Camaro Spring Edition Package that will go into production then. The last opportunity for dealers to submit orders for convertibles with the beige top (RPO: 67T) will be the Dealer Order Submission Process (DOSP) cycle that starts Thursday, December 5, 2013 and concludes Tuesday, December 10. 2013 -- therefore -- if you desire a 2014 Camaro with a Beige convertible top - you need to visit your dealer immediately to place your order.

The end of beige top production does not impact the availability of the black top (RPO: 19T). As a reminder, the recently announced 2014 Camaro Spring Special edition, when ordered with a convertible model, will include a blue convertible top.

San2cci 11-18-2013 01:18 PM

Dang I should probably order a 1LE today

Buffman 11-18-2013 01:36 PM

This has already been posted in 1LE forum as well

Apex Motorsports 11-18-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tran (Post 7196310)
Effective Thursday, November 21, 2013, Chevrolet will temporarily suspend order processing for the 2014 Camaro ZL1 model and the SS Performance Package (RPO: 1LE) due to the effect of cold weather on the performance tires for these models.

Say what? :twitch:

nyrfan 11-18-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase (Post 7196414)
Say what? :twitch:

Yea it's been discussed in length already, guessing you did not see the other posts. GM is doing this instead of having holds on orders (already placed) like they did last winter.

Have a look here:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328054

NJBourne23 11-18-2013 03:17 PM

Why not just ship them with "basic" tires and have the dealer switch them out? Then you can have a disclaimer signed explaining that the tires are not good in the snow/cold and recommend switching tires or winterizing the vehicle until Spring. What about those in warmer climates

Sikoriko 11-18-2013 03:22 PM

Say they don't have all whell drive? haha

DavidW 11-18-2013 03:26 PM

The tires cannot even be exposed to below 20F according to goodyear, it would be a big hassle to have separate tires/wheels just for shipping how would it even work?

One way could be reg wheels/tires bolted on car, zl1/1le wheels shipped in heated transport, dealer swaps them out and ships them back to the factory for reuse? that would be the best way imo since your zl1 wheels havent been touched more than necessary and youre not stuck with technically used tires/wheels to sell, but also very costly, 2x shipping bills.

Probably the most economical way would be ship the car with the rear ss pirellis all around on the 1le/zl1 rims, the dealer gets the goodyears separate, and swap them out. The problems with that are the dealer now has 4 tires that could probably be sold as new, but they technically wouldn't be new, and your brand new car has now had tires unmounted/remounted an additional time, even if they didn't balance the original tires(so you dont have weights added/removed) at the factory you would still have the chance of marks on the rim lip.

That is why they do this, you have just under 3 months of no orders for these cars, with enough notice that you can place a few extra orders (if your allocations allow) to hold you over until march.

vroomapunk 11-18-2013 03:39 PM

Maybe also cause every car has to be driven by a service person (PDI), and the tires may not be suitable for the conditions at the time?

DavidW 11-18-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vroomapunk (Post 7196717)
Maybe also cause every car has to be driven by a service person (PDI), and the tires may not be suitable for the conditions at the time?

The PDI is at the dealer, so there is no reason this couldn't be done at the dealerships in the southern united states, obviously the dealers in the northern states and canada wouldnt be able to do this

NorthTex45thSS 11-18-2013 05:25 PM

What a joke! Because of the tires? I drive on drag radials year round snow rain or shine! Its a shame this is probably due to all the frivolous lawsuits these days! All it takes is some idiot with more dollars then common sense to wreck a zl1 or 1le and sue because it was the tires fault they lost control! SMH

OperativeXIV 11-18-2013 05:45 PM

This does seem rather silly, especially for the southern states where we don't even flirt with 20 degrees. It's a sunny 80 degrees outside right now! :/

el ess A 11-18-2013 06:03 PM

If you're not ordering a 1LE or ZL1, don't worry about it, it does not affect you. It certainly isn't affecting me. I got mine.

Doesn't matter if YOU can drive year round. The cars don't sit in climate controlled comfort in Oshawa. They're OUTSIDE...and in Oshawa, if you haven't got the memo yet...gets COLD. So cold it can affect the tire situation.

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires. If you don't like it, then wait until spring and put in your order. You can probably place an order with your dealer now and in February, they'll make yours.

It's out of your hands, and if you think you can change it, don't. Because you can't. The word has come down from the mountain. Get over it, get on with life. Go find a cure for cancer or something. It's a higher priority than ZL1/1LE orders.

The Blue Angel 11-18-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by el ess A (Post 7197126)
If you're not ordering a 1LE or ZL1, don't worry about it, it does not affect you. It certainly isn't affecting me. I got mine.

Doesn't matter if YOU can drive year round. The cars don't sit in climate controlled comfort in Oshawa. They're OUTSIDE...and in Oshawa, if you haven't got the memo yet...gets COLD. So cold it can affect the tire situation.

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires. If you don't like it, then wait until spring and put in your order. You can probably place an order with your dealer now and in February, they'll make yours.

It's out of your hands, and if you think you can change it, don't. Because you can't. The word has come down from the mountain. Get over it, get on with life. Go find a cure for cancer or something. It's a higher priority than ZL1/1LE orders.

Exactly!! And thus is why I laugh when I here someone say they don't drive in rain. Our Camaros sit outside in ALL kinds of weather before we buy them.

San2cci 11-18-2013 10:33 PM

I love enjoying my Camaro every single day regardless of rain, snow, sleet, or sun. I don't understand why people put the car away unless they really don't feel safe driving in snow.

Jason@JacFab 11-18-2013 10:40 PM

Very strange indeed... I drove my SS year round, rain, sleet, or snow.

Mr. Wyndham 11-18-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NJBourne23 (Post 7196668)
Why not just ship them with "basic" tires and have the dealer switch them out? Then you can have a disclaimer signed explaining that the tires are not good in the snow/cold and recommend switching tires or winterizing the vehicle until Spring. What about those in warmer climates

Logistical nightmare.

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Originally Posted by RacnJsn95 (Post 7198080)
Very strange indeed... I drove my SS year round, rain, sleet, or snow.

The Goodyear tires on the ZL1 and 1LE are unique, and don't act like the Pirelli tires much at all. In short: they are phenomenal in the warm weather and simply mind-blowing on the track....but they absolutely hate cold weather. 40 and below: forget it. It's like trying to drive with tupperware lids bolted to the axles...

OperativeXIV 11-18-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham (Post 7198085)
The Goodyear tires on the ZL1 and 1LE are unique, and don't act like the Pirelli tires much at all. In short: they are phenomenal in the warm weather and simply mind-blowing on the track....but they absolutely hate cold weather. 40 and below: forget it. It's like trying to drive with tupperware lids bolted to the axles...

This makes me wonder what you're supposed to do if you take a weekend drive up to the mountains or something and it's a bit nippy outside? Do you get winter tires and put them on if there's a chance you'll see colder weather? Or is there a bit of hyperbole in this (and GM's) statement and it's fine for driving around as long as you're not trying to break records at the drag strip?

DavidW 11-18-2013 11:56 PM

You get different tires if you need to drive below 40F, and its not just about the fact that the tires shouldnt be driven below 40F, but I guess some people didnt read my first post so ill say it again..

THESE TIRES CANNOT BE EXPOSED TO BELOW 20F

The tires can start to crack when they are exposed to those temperatures, and guess what the projected low in Oshawa is for Sunday? 23F and its not even December yet.

JCunningham 11-19-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by San2cci (Post 7198054)
I love enjoying my Camaro every single day regardless of rain, snow, sleet, or sun. I don't understand why people put the car away unless they really don't feel safe driving in snow.

because i want to keep it around and they put a mixture of salt and ash on the roads that will eat a car like this befor its payed off. And I hate to see it covered with crap. Plus I have a 4x4 to drive in the winter. Once you have a 4x4 with 4 studded snow tires you will never want to drive a car in the snow again.

ZED SLED 11-19-2013 07:36 AM

Of all the threads that get moved this one is a prime candidate. If it were in just the ZL1 and 1LE sections maybe so many heads wouldn't explode, lol.

kevinw 11-19-2013 08:17 AM

hence, when i bought my car, i didnt want the RS package and summer only tires. i got a non rs with 19 inch all season tires. some tires are just made for certain types of driving and GM dont expect folks with ZL1 cars to be plowing down detroit snow.

Buffman 11-19-2013 08:23 AM

hence why I bought a 1LE, these tires make this car what it is, and I have no problems having it sit in my warm garage and NEVER seeing snow (salt/mag chloride etc).

Here is a long post on all this as well:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328054

HmBuilder2 11-19-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el ess A (Post 7197126)
If you're not ordering a 1LE or ZL1, don't worry about it, it does not affect you. It certainly isn't affecting me. I got mine.

Doesn't matter if YOU can drive year round. The cars don't sit in climate controlled comfort in Oshawa. They're OUTSIDE...and in Oshawa, if you haven't got the memo yet...gets COLD. So cold it can affect the tire situation.

GM is not going to play musical chairs with tires. If you don't like it, then wait until spring and put in your order. You can probably place an order with your dealer now and in February, they'll make yours.

It's out of your hands, and if you think you can change it, don't. Because you can't. The word has come down from the mountain. Get over it, get on with life. Go find a cure for cancer or something. It's a higher priority than ZL1/1LE orders.


+1 :happy0180:

Mr. Wyndham 11-19-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OperativeXIV (Post 7198178)
This makes me wonder what you're supposed to do if you take a weekend drive up to the mountains or something and it's a bit nippy outside? Do you get winter tires and put them on if there's a chance you'll see colder weather? Or is there a bit of hyperbole in this (and GM's) statement and it's fine for driving around as long as you're not trying to break records at the drag strip?

I've driven on the tires in every non-damaging condition imaginable (see: above 30)...If the temperature falls below 45...traction is SEVERELY compromised...just a little too much throttle and the car slides around. BUT!! If you're careful and knowledgable - you can drive the car. The concern becomes "what if you need to perform an emergency maneuver?"

....so, take that for what you will.


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