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KILLER74Z28 09-05-2006 04:49 PM

Camaro to Europe.
 
Here you go Twin Turbo...

Jason Stein - Automotive News Europe - September 4, 2006 - 6:00 am

MUNICH -- Chevrolet Europe executives are studying whether to bring the Camaro sports coupe to Europe.

Last month, GM confirmed the automaker will build an all-new version of the American muscle car based on a concept unveiled at the 2006 Detroit auto show. Although the Camaro concept vehicle has not been shown yet in Europe, Chevrolet Europe is considering importing and selling it here.

“I want the car for our lineup,” Wayne Brannon, executive director of Chevrolet Europe, told Automotive News Europe. “But we want it to be a good business case. We are considering it.”

Brannon said he would like to make a decision by the first quarter of next year. He said a number of factors will be considered in the decision, including: engineering issues for Europe, emission requirements and volume.

“We would not look at it as a huge volume opportunity,” Brannon said. “But the project has to make sense.”

Chevrolet Europe says there already has been a positive reaction to the car from dealers and customers. The sales expectations probably won’t be large because American muscle cars are minor players in the European market.

Ford, for example, has sold 441 units of its Mustang through six months this year, according to UK-based market researcher JATO Dynamics. That’s down from 463 units during the same period last year, but up substantially from 2004, when Ford sold just 70 units.

Coupes are also a niche segment. In the last two years, carmakers have sold an average of 30,000 units as customers increasingly switch to the coupe-cabriolet segment. That market is now nearly 10 times the size of the coupe segment.

GM will begin production of the new Camaro at the end of 2008 in Oshawa, Canada, and the car will go on sale in the US in early 2009.

MarkLS2 09-05-2006 05:04 PM

Wow we need this car to goto europe for sure, time to show them our really exceptional products

BlacLac02 09-06-2006 06:13 AM

i dont think europe can handle that kind of muscle. all the rice burners might get upset about all of the noise

Twin Turbo 09-06-2006 01:57 PM

Oh yes, that's music to my ears!!!!!

It's probably true that the market for US muscle cars is very small over here (petrol is currently about £5/gallon.....so that's about $9.....yep NINE dollars a gallon).

BUT, GM do sell the Corvette here officially and Chrysler sell the 300c (we even get a 300c touring - you get the Dodge Magnum tourer). The SRT/8s are also just getting here.

Ford do not officially sell the Mustang here, but there are several companies that will import them for us.....and many people import their own.

Vauxhall (Britains GM arm) sell the Monaro (Pontiac GTO to you) here, and that's been a great success too. So I'm sure the Camaro will sell too.

So, bring it on GM. If you've got any sense you'll sell it in RHD too.

:D

Bruno 09-09-2006 01:49 PM

Curious has any generation Camaro ever sold in Europe or will this be first time ever?

Twin Turbo 09-11-2006 01:20 PM

Certainly some of the early cars from the 60's were imported, but not officially.

We did get the last generation cars sold over here officially. LHD only, of course, and we paid the same in £ as you guys did in $. Certainly didn't sell in big numbers.

GM have pushed the Monaro much harder over here in the last couple of years.

:)

Bruno 09-13-2006 06:32 PM

Read an article in the new CAR magazine today and it seemed to be saying that the Camaro wouldn't be developed to comply with Europe standards. Wonder which source is right.

Twin Turbo 09-14-2006 03:45 PM

Car claim the Camaro won't meet the new European Pedestrian impact standards due next year or so. Don't know if you guys have anything similar in the States, but there now has to be a set amount (something like 50mm) between the top of the engine and the bonnet (hood). The new Jag XK uses a "pop-up" bonnet, using similar tech to airbags. There may be other rules too....a lot of new small hatchbacks in europe are featuring some rather overlong front overhangs.

Personally, I think pedestrians should stay outta the road!

BUT, the Camaro concept is just that. A concept. Whilst the production car is going to look pretty much the same, I'm sure they could engineer in the pedestrian safety features. The car already has a fairly bluff front end, so it shouldn't be that difficult.:burnrubber:

pverspeek 09-15-2006 10:31 AM

Overhere in Belgium we do have several older model Camaro's driving around. A friend of mine even owned a '69 SS.

Myself; I currenlty own a 2004 Silverado SS, and my girlfriend and I also WILL buy the new Camaro, when it will be available.

We will import the car ourselves; as we don't care about official GM matters at all. That the same way we handled with the SSS.

Chevrolet Belgium knows about our SSS, and isn't even interested.

We do have several cars with a bigger amount of power driving around here, but I do prefer the US V8 engines, although BMW also has some interesting cars available (M3 - M5).

Personaly I'm interested in the SS with 500 Hp version. Ok, nobody knows wheather they'll even make the car; but I'm hoping for that one, including that magnificent Race Thing Look. I do like the hidden front lights.

Just my 2 C.

Pascal

OverAnxious 09-28-2006 11:28 AM

Camaro for Europe?
 
http://5thgencamaro.blogspot.com/200...or-europe.html

Chevrolet may sell the famed muscle car in Europe

September 11, 2006
Source: Automotive News - Jason Stein

MUNICH, Germany -- Chevrolet Europe executives are studying whether to bring the Camaro sports coupe to Europe.

Last month, General Motors confirmed it will build a new version of the American muscle car based on a concept unveiled at the 2006 Detroit auto show.

Although the Camaro concept vehicle has not been shown in Europe, Chevrolet Europe is considering importing and selling it here.

"I want the car for our lineup," Wayne Brannon, executive director of Chevrolet Europe, told Automotive News Europe. "But we want it to be a good business case. We are considering it."

Brannon said he would like to make a decision by the first quarter of next year. He said a number of factors will be considered in the decision, including engineering issues for Europe, emission requirements and volume.

"We would not look at it as a huge volume opportunity," Brannon said. "But the project has to make sense."

Chevrolet Europe says there already has been a positive reaction to the car from dealers and customers.

The sales expectations probably won't be large because American muscle cars are minor players in the European market.

Ford, for example, sold 441 Mustangs through six months this year, according to British market researcher JATO Dynamics. That's down from 463 during the same period last year but up substantially from 2004, when Ford sold just 70.

Coupes are also a niche segment. In the last two years, carmakers have sold an average of 30,000 units as customers increasingly switch to the coupe-cabriolet segment. That market is now nearly 10 times the size of the coupe segment, JATO reports.

GM will begin production of the Camaro at the end of 2008 in Oshawa, Ontario, and the car will go on sale in the United States in early 2009.

Bruno 09-28-2006 12:16 PM

Cool, I hope Europe gets it. So those who can afford the gas and a musclecar can enjoy what we get to enjoy here

Bruno 09-28-2006 12:16 PM

Here's an older related thread I found here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165

Twin Turbo 09-28-2006 04:00 PM

The decision will be made early next year? C'mon guys, say yes NOW. You'll have at least one customer :thumbup:

KILLER74Z28 09-28-2006 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno (Post 1808)
Here's an older related thread I found here http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165

:thumbsup:

TAG UR IT 11-16-2006 06:57 AM

Twin, right now one of the two concepts is in Paris. You will most likely get your wish. GM does want to market and sell the Camaro over seas. Get this, the Camaro will have to run at 150 mph for one hour as part of their "standards", as I guess you could call them. The LS1 was run at redline for 24 hours. That's reliability for you!

Casull 11-16-2006 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 3084)
Get this, the Camaro will have to run at 150 mph for one hour as part of their "standards", as I guess you could call them. The LS1 was run at redline for 24 hours. That's reliability for you!

That is crazy! Although I can say from experience that there is a reason for that. When a friend and I had rented a little Opel 4-banger diesel and drove from Normandy to Paris we were getting passed on the "interstate" (or whatever they call it) at twice our speed.... and we literally had the thing floored the whole way! Although I can't see how they can afford it.... when we were there 4 years ago now, the gas prices were around 2 euro a litre.... and that was 4 years ago (and we Americans think we have it bad).

Twin Turbo 11-16-2006 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT (Post 3084)
Twin, right now one of the two concepts is in Paris. You will most likely get your wish. GM does want to market and sell the Camaro over seas. Get this, the Camaro will have to run at 150 mph for one hour as part of their "standards", as I guess you could call them. The LS1 was run at redline for 24 hours. That's reliability for you!


That's promising. Pity none of the UK motoring press picked up that the car's in Paris :mad:

Casull 11-16-2006 03:30 PM

I find this extremely fascinating. I really wonder whether or not American Muscle can take hold in the european market. I wonder if they would release it with the same engine options? I think that the comment about a diesel in a Camaro I had read awhile ago may be a reality if it breaks into the Euro market.

Out of curiousity, anyone know what the price of "petrol" is over the pond these days?

TAG UR IT 11-17-2006 01:53 AM

The Camaro offered for sale in Europe will be the same as the Camaro offered here in the states.

Twin Turbo 11-17-2006 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casull (Post 3117)
I find this extremely fascinating. I really wonder whether or not American Muscle can take hold in the european market. I wonder if they would release it with the same engine options? I think that the comment about a diesel in a Camaro I had read awhile ago may be a reality if it breaks into the Euro market.

Out of curiousity, anyone know what the price of "petrol" is over the pond these days?

£5/gallon.......call it about $8/gallon. That's why muscle cars will never be sold in huge numbers over here :(

Casull 11-17-2006 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Turbo (Post 3124)
£5/gallon.......call it about $8/gallon. That's why muscle cars will never be sold in huge numbers over here :(

ouch... Like I said, Americans have nothing to complain about at ~$2.30 a gal (Indiana)

LowRider 11-17-2006 08:26 AM

tell us which Camaro shows up over there the red or silver one.

TAG UR IT 11-17-2006 11:20 AM

I'm sure it'll be in the press somewhere. They shipped it over there for all to see and get a reaction. I doubt they would go through all that not to have any press release or anything.

LowRider 11-30-2006 10:43 AM

Ya we want picks of it when you get them

Moose 11-30-2006 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LowRider (Post 3130)
tell us which Camaro shows up over there the red or silver one.

It'll be the silver concept. :thumbsup:

The red concept is a "dummy"...just a shell and just enough of an interior to look authentic. It doesn't have any running gear. ;)


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