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Info@PeddersUSA.com 11-08-2009 01:31 PM

Pedders Camaro was the fastest Camaro at the Optima Challenge!
 
Pedders Camaro was the fastest Camaro at the Optima Challenge by a significant amount. The quote from the driver says the setup was perfect! Stay tuned

More to come once all the numbers are officially posted!


Watch this video of Paul driving on the autocross and being chased by a ZR1 on the track. Noitce the serious control and lack of body role going flat out, as well as the fore/aft balance where there is no lift or dive. Then notice the ZR!. It has more body role that the Pedders Camaro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myksIzDGNHw


thanks
mike
dms

alssiri 11-08-2009 02:14 PM

:thumbsup:

Ahmad

Beauwulf 11-08-2009 03:19 PM

The car looks awesome! Are you running 19" wheels?

Rob@WretchedMS 11-08-2009 05:42 PM

Yes, 19" with Bridgestone RE-11s

Beauwulf 11-08-2009 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@WretchedMS (Post 1148777)
Yes, 19" with Bridgestone RE-11s


Cool... do you mind giving out the sizes.. wheels and tires?

IPS Brandon 11-09-2009 03:05 PM

how much power does this car make?

Also what is the total cost of all the suspension pieces.

Info@PeddersUSA.com 11-09-2009 03:34 PM

Here is the data on Pete's suspension:

305-30R19 all 4 corners
10.5 wide wheels from Forgeline

Here is the Justice Pete Camaro package

CAMARO JUSTICE PETE XA TRACK EXTREME
SPECIAL NOTE: Racing Helmit and Driving Suit Not Included!!
Part # Pedders Component Price
160086 Camaro eXtreme Xa Multi Adjustable Coilover Kit By Pedders with 8kg/mm Front and 10kg/mm Rear Coil Rates $1,449.99
EP1167HD REAR ZETA HD DIFFERENTIAL BUSHING KIT $138.36
EP1201 CAMARO TOTAL REAR SUB FRAME BUSHING REPLACEMENT $449.03
EP2112 Zeta Steering Rack Bush $26.25
EP6577 CAMARO Front Radius Rod Bushing $198.59
EP7322 Camaro Rear Control arm - Upper inner rear. Possibly being updated $96.20
EP7264 Zeta rear lower control arm inner $96.20
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out. $96.20
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out. $96.20
PDUSACAMFULL CAMARO REAR EXTENDED CAMBER, TOE ADJUSTERS, FRONT CASTER ECCENTRICS & CAMBER ADJUSTERS $210.00
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out. $96.20
EP7323 Zeta Camaro Rear Toe, and trailing arm links in and out. $96.20
CAMAROSOLUTIONC 27MM FR. & 32MM REAR SWAY BAR WITH 4 ADJUSTABLE ENDLINKS Larger HD end links require enlarging mounting holes. Special Note: The 32mm sway bar is a Track ready bar and should only be installed on vehicles driven by SCCA or NASA qualified drivers. This bar may be set up to induce oversteer! $649.98
CAMARO JUSTICE PETE XA TRACK EXTREME PARTS TOTAL $3,699.40

Menu System Discount Estimate $449.91
SCCA and NASA Drivers Note:
We offer alternative coils for those trained drivers that feel they need coil rate changes. The Xa coils for the Camaro are 8 front and 10 rear kg/mm. Also the Pedders SOLUTIONC sway bar kit is a SERIOUS sway bar that, if the vehicle is set up wrong, excess oversteer may occur. We recommend this kit only for SCCA and NASA certified drivers.

Menu System Discount Adjusted Parts Total $3,249.49

For those of you who drop your Camaros a lot, keep in mind there is a very high possibility you will not get your rear cambers to a desired level. There is not enough throw on the eccentrics. Also the front caster is not adjustable. We have a kit that makes it adjustable plus increases front caster as well.

The 27mm front and 32mm rear bar is a seriously aggressive setup and if incorrectly set up, will induce oversteer. This is why we only want sway bar setup for the trained driver.


If you have any more questions, just ask

mike
dms

Beauwulf 11-09-2009 06:21 PM

Thanks Mike! So, was this a "tail happy" setup where you need 500HP to get it around or will a lesser amount (say 350 HP V6) do as well?

How much for the wheels and tires?

Info@PeddersUSA.com 11-09-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauwulf (Post 1152836)
Thanks Mike! So, was this a "tail happy" setup where you need 500HP to get it around or will a lesser amount (say 350 HP V6) do as well?

How much for the wheels and tires?

Thru the twisties, the advantage of Pedders is not hp, but control and matching suspension setup to the tires, to the driver's abilities. A really aggressive setup will work just fine on a stock v6. Having higher hp, does give you additional advantages on certain to the seriously high talented driver who knows how to drift and elects to do a controlled drift thru a corner. Also be advised the Solution C sway bar is not for everyone. If improperly setup, it can introduce a oversteer that a untrained driver may not know how to deal with. Our Solution B package would be a better setup for the novice.

mike
dms

Info@PeddersUSA.com 11-09-2009 09:10 PM

To give more data, we do not want to run our Pedders Camaro on a high speed coarse. The Pedders Camaro has the ability to fly to 175mph. But she does not have a 5 point harness nor a role cage. So we will choose coarses that are very technical. 135-140mph area, a drop in the bucket and easy to handle and deal with. Keep in mind, the Pedders Camaro is a daily driver, used to pick up the kids at school. Most of the vehicles at the Optima Challenge cannot say the same. Many competitive vehicles there were not suppose to shave the tires but it is blatantly obvious thsy did. Many were running the Hoozer tires that are in fact DOT rated, but if you go to their site, they will say they are all out track tires and are not to be driven on the street. The top 2-3 vehicles were flat out full role cage race cars and in no way were streetable cars like the Pedders Camaro. But the tests were what they were. The Pedders Camaro was by far the fastest Camaro there by over 7 seconds and it was a fairly low speed track that was more technical than high speed. Therefore power was of little influence, but suspension and tire set up was critical. a 6-7 second advantage is a lifetime on a race coarse. Without a doubt, our numbers will prove that the Pedders setup, direction, and influence is by far second to none in the Camaro Community

mike
dms

YancyJohns 11-09-2009 09:26 PM

Very Nice Car! It really hauled *ss. It was great to see Indy 500 driver Paul Tracey drive the car!:w00t:

Question:

Why was it announced it was a Fessler/Moss Camaro?

What were your times in the autocross, road course and 0-60-0?

Info@PeddersUSA.com 11-09-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YancyJohns (Post 1153838)
Very Nice Car! It really hauled *ss. It was great to see Indy 500 driver Paul Tracey drive the car!:w00t:

Question:

Why was it announced it was a Fessler/Moss Camaro?

What were your times in the autocross, road course and 0-60-0?

We were in the Fesler bopoth, thus a Fesler vehicle. We are waiting for the official times. They have not posted the times yet

mike
dms

Nick Licata 11-10-2009 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dms (Post 1148162)
Pedders Camaro was the fastest Camaro at the Optima Challenge by a significant amount. The quote from the driver says the setup was perfect! Stay tuned

Having Paul Tracy at the wheel doesn't hurt, either. The car sounded great too.

Nick L.

JoshJ81 11-10-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IPS Brandon (Post 1151976)
how much power does this car make?

From what I understand from other posts about this car, the whole power/drive train is bone stock? This car is a pure beast just off of suspension updates, correct? That is what I love about this Camaro and as soon as I can get my wife to see that LOL I'll hit up Pedders soon.


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