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PfadtRacing 01-04-2010 12:24 PM

Pfadt Race Engineering releases new Camaro V8 Engine Mounts
 
Happy New Year everyone,

I started this thread in the V8 Engine Forum as well, but I think it applies here as well because it can also be considered a chassis upgrade.

Pfadt Race Engineering releases new Camaro V8 Engine Mounts

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...ine_Mounts.jpg

At Pfadt, we believe in engineering-driven products that provide solutions to common limitations of performance cars. As a result of this, I wanted start a thread regarding the launch of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount Kit, which upholds this ideal in every way. My intentions are to give everyone a brief overview, and highlight the DIY aspect of this important upgrade, with comprehensive install instructions.

Our new Camaro Engine Mount kit is certainly a must for all of you who currently have, or plan on having, power adders for your 5th-gen Camaro. Just like in a suspension, soft rubber-based mounting solutions can wear out quickly, lose their effectiveness under load, and lead to problems when upgrading other components on your Camaro. Engine isolation is no exception. This is often overlooked when building a powertrain, because it is commonly a “secondary” consideration.

It is no longer a problem lacking a complete solution, however, because we are currently shipping sets of our new Camaro V8 Engine Mount kit. The kit consists of a 6061 T6 aluminum upper component (with an anodized finish), a zinc plated steel lower component, graphite-impregnated polyurethane hat bushings, and all hardware necessary for installation on both sides. This kit will give you the engine restraint that your Camaro is desperately in need of. And as you will see below, it is incredibly easy for customers of all experience levels to install.

As always, please do not hesitate to contact us if you want more information, or are in need of clarification on installation.




Camaro V8 Engine Mount Installation

Tools Needed:

3/8" drive ratchet
24" long 3/8" extension
torque wrench
15mm socket
18mm deep socket
3/8" drive universal
screw jack

This procedure is best performed on a vehicle lift, however it is possible to install these mounts using a floor jack and jack stands.


The pictures below are to show the stock mount (black rubber part), with the OEM pedestal (silver component above the black mount), and its relation to the engine and front subframe.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...d_Pedestal.JPG
http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...Pedestal_7.JPG

And this picture is to illustrate exactly which component we are replacing.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...Pedestal_4.JPG


Removal:

Open hood and using a long extension on a 3/8 ratchet with a swivel, remove the upper engine mount nuts on both sides of the engine (18mm hex)

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0040.JPG

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0039.JPG

Raise the car on the lift (or lift the car and safely support on jack stands). If using jack stands, it will be necessary to remove the front tires.

Using the 18mm socket, remove the nuts from the lower stud of the engine mounts.

Using the screw jack and a protective block of wood, raise the engine off of the engine mounts by lifting on a structural portion of the oil pan. Use care to not damage the cast aluminum oil pan. The upward travel of the engine will be limited by the exhaust contacting the underside of the body. Stop when contact occurs, you will get the extra room required by removing the engine mount pedestals from the engine block.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0033.JPG

Using the 15mm socket and universal on a long extension, remove the four bolts holding the engine mount pedestals to the engine block on each side.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da..._with_text.jpg

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da..._with_text.JPG

One at a time move the pedestals out of the way enough to remove the stock engine mounts.

Installation:

Install the Pfadt engine mounts in place of the stock mount being sure to orient the mounts correctly. The tab on the lower steel portion of the mount will engage a slot in the Camaro subframe.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0035.JPG

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0036.JPG

Re-install the pedestals to the engine block using the original bolts. Torque bolts to 37 lb-ft


Align the upper studs on the Pfadt engine mounts with the holes in the pedestals and carefully lower the engine down onto the mounts.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0037.JPG

Using the crush nuts from the factory mounts, start the nuts on the studs of the Pfadt mounts (upper and lower). Torque the lower nuts to 37 lb-ft

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0038.JPG

http://www.pfadtracing.com/photos/da...m/IMG_0039.JPG

Lower the car to the ground. Using the long extension again, torque the upper engine mount nuts to 37 lb-ft.

mtcwby 01-05-2010 11:31 PM

Nice Aaron, let us know when you have the manual transmission mount done as well. At that time I will buy the whole set. Also, have you got instructions like this for installing your rear diff bushings?

PfadtRacing 01-06-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtcwby (Post 1352773)
Nice Aaron, let us know when you have the manual transmission mount done as well. At that time I will buy the whole set. Also, have you got instructions like this for installing your rear diff bushings?

This comes up often, as there are number of customers interested in transmission mounts for their Camaro. Unfortunately I can't provide any concrete date for when these will be available. But, I can say we are working on these, and we will keep everyone updated as the date draws closer. There are a number of variables involved, and we need to make sure we cover all our bases for the components we produce.

In regards to the rear diff bushing install instructions, I will make it a point to post them in this thread when they are ready. Look for these in the next week or two. Its a priority to make sure customers are clear on install procedures, so thank you for asking about them!:D

Blue70SS 01-06-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PfadtRacing (Post 1353693)
This comes up often, as there are number of customers interested in transmission mounts for their Camaro. Unfortunately I can't provide any concrete date for when these will be available. But, I can say we are working on these, and we will keep everyone updated as the date draws closer. There are a number of variables involved, and we need to make sure we cover all our bases for the components we produce.

In regards to the rear diff bushing install instructions, I will make it a point to post them in this thread when they are ready. Look for these in the next week or two. Its a priority to make sure customers are clear on install procedures, so thank you for asking about them!:D

Will be waiting! Thanks for progress in the installation instructions area.:thumbup:
Also looking forward to release of adjustible camber plates for your coilovers! :D:drinking:

PfadtRacing 01-07-2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue70SS (Post 1355903)
Will be waiting! Thanks for progress in the installation instructions area.:thumbup:
Also looking forward to release of adjustible camber plates for your coilovers! :D:drinking:

We are working on a number of install write ups, and will be sure to post them up when they are complete. So thank you for your patience.:)

In regards to the camber plates, these too, are in the works. They are being phased into production as we speak, so look for them in the near future! We will be certain to let everyone know when they are available. These units will work with our Pfadt Coilovers, as well as OEM struts.

Thanks for your comments!

robertway 01-15-2010 11:17 AM

Aaron, I know this is an Engine Mount thread but in reference to the camber plates, is there any post you can refer me to or can you post it here as to when the camber plates would be required and/or beneficial

PfadtRacing 01-15-2010 12:58 PM

Certainly. We are going to be putting something official together, but I can fill you in on some info.

Essentially, there are a couple of reasons to install these. The first is if you have maxed out the OEM adjustment on the front camber bolts. The lower the ride height, the more camber correction you will need to dial in for the suspension to keep things aligned and maintain a good contact patch with the road surface, for street driving. These camber plates we are producing will provide well over an extra degree of negative adjustment.

The second reason is for quicker, more repeatable camber adjustments. If you are taking your car to an autocross, or a track day event, then it is very beneficial to be able to drive you car there, on a camber value better suited for street driving, and then dial camber in and out quickly at the track (with out having to take the wheel off etc), with more track friendly negative camber values, that are repeatable.

Look for more info soon in the future, as we are anticipating a Feb. 1st availability date. Thank you for inquiring!


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