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Tran 02-08-2010 01:02 PM

2011 Camaro coupe and Camaro convertible to be available in Europe next year
 
As reported on homepage.

GM has confirmed today that it will be launching 5 new models in Europe in 2011. Among these 5 new models will be the Camaro coupe and Camaro convertible, says Chevrolet Europe president and managing director Wayne Brannon.

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European consumers will get a taste of Chevy's future offerings at the Geneva Salon as the firm will show off the Orlando concept alongside the Camaro and the Aveo RS, which will have its European premiere after its world debut at the North American International Auto Show last month.

It is expected that Chevy will introduce the production versions of both the Orlando MPV and the Camaro Convertible by the end of the year.

No specific details were released about the Euro-spec Camaros, and even though there has been talk in the past of a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine churning out around 260HP, unfortunately for those living in European countries that base tax on engine displacement, chances are that Chevy's muscle car will be offered with the same 304HP 3.6-liter V6 and 426HP 6.2-liter V8 engines as the North American model. From http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2010/02...o-mpv-and.html


youngoliver 02-08-2010 09:43 PM

ohhh cool....

haha

cab2g 02-08-2010 09:57 PM

Yeah thats cool I can rent one when I go to Germany next :)

Jerseyrican88 02-08-2010 11:38 PM

YESSSSSSS THE CAMARO IS TAKING OVER

swisscheese 02-09-2010 05:17 AM

hoping for better prices!!!

2010 SSRS 02-09-2010 07:48 AM

Nice

Maa107 02-09-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by swisscheese (Post 1464490)
hoping for better prices!!!

I doubt that, I heard they may be twice for what there priced here. Although I'm not to sure so don't count on it...:iono:

chevydude26 02-09-2010 09:50 AM

What about the US

Andro 02-09-2010 10:08 AM

Good to hear there going overseas but the V-6 and V-8 taxes in Europe is alot. Most people can't afford it and also the gas prices there are crazy high.

Emher 02-09-2010 10:31 AM

First of, great news and worth de-lurking to comment on! This means I'll be able to get the Camaro cheaper since the import dealers will no longer be the only dealers selling it.


Now, for some replies:

Maa107, they're already prices double for a "rare and new" import, and they will be cheaper then that.

Andro, yes we have higher taxes. And we also have public health care that is great. And we have great schools. And great public transportation. Some of the things that the taxes pay for. Would I like some lighter taxes on bigger engines? Sure, but it's not so high that it's unattainable. I can easily pay for an SS if I save up some and plan my economy. The latter I've already done for quite a while. Plus I see plenty of cars with V6 engines daily, and there's even some V8s out and about in winter (in summer they're aplenty).


As long as they don't make huge changes to it, this is all good. :thumbsup:

Steeler NY 02-09-2010 11:22 AM

So are you saying the convertible will be available in Europe before we can get it here in the US???:iono:

Emher 02-09-2010 11:28 AM

I'd expect it to be available around the same time.

Maa107 02-09-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Emher (Post 1465018)

Now, for some replies:

Maa107, they're already prices double for a "rare and new" import, and they will be cheaper then that.

So will it be cheaper in the US or Europe?

stand-al0ne 02-09-2010 01:15 PM

more expensive in Europe.
Tax on engine displacement will hurt it and shipping from CAN to EU is more than what we pay to simply ship South...

Emher 02-09-2010 02:30 PM

^Yeah, it will hurt it, but the enthusiasts will buy. Just like you guys over there have bought SS's instead of the capable LT models since you wan't a V8.

And I don't think an American car will EVER be cheaper here then in the US, but this official release will push the price down. If the Mustang was officially sold in Europe, it too would be cheaper.

dstairs 02-09-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stand-al0ne (Post 1465578)
more expensive in Europe.
Tax on engine displacement will hurt it and shipping from CAN to EU is more than what we pay to simply ship South...

Did they say they were building the car at Oshawa or even that the cars sold in Europe are being built in North America?

Emher 02-09-2010 02:44 PM

^I'd consider it likely that it's still to be built in Oshawa. I'm pretty sure all the Vettes over here are built in the US.

Could be wrong, would be happy to be since that would drive down the price more.

Mats 02-09-2010 02:55 PM

I am so happy that my new 2010 Camaro SS manual is in my garage waiting for that damn snow to go away. Can´t it be spring here in Sweden soon....!! Ordered it end of May and it arrived to me early November. Odometer reading is only 100 miles. I want to drive my car! It was not cheap to import this car to Sweden and I want to enjoy it NOW!

sen10l 02-09-2010 03:10 PM

What's it liking being probably the only person you'll ever see in your city in a Camaro? How do people react to seeing a car no-one else drives?

iudexmaximus 02-09-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stand-al0ne (Post 1465578)
more expensive in Europe.
Tax on engine displacement will hurt it and shipping from CAN to EU is more than what we pay to simply ship South...

What you say, and what is written on the link, is not completely true.
In Italy,for example, taxes aren't any more based on displacement since the beginning of 90's. Until those times, VAT on gasoline cars with displacement lower than 2.0L was 19%, while over 2.0L it was 38% IIRC.
Currently VAT is 20% in any case.
Every year we pay a tax based on how much HP the car has at the flywheel (...) and it's about 2.60 € per KW, based on emissions. It could be higher is the car is old, because it's assumed to respect older pollution laws.
The only tax that is based on displacement is the insurance, but the difference among my 2.2 liters bmw and a 6,2 liters camaro SS is just 30 euros per year.

The car prices is just a political matter: european cars are cheaper in the Usa than in EU, even if you have to cross the ocean to transport them and even if you have to pay import taxes. If OEM want to sell a car in a market, they have to fit the prices according to the local market. It doesn't matter if they don't gain so much money there: they will gain more money in other countries, tipically in Europe and especially in Italy.
Prices have nothing to see with euro/dollar exchange rate, or with shipping costs, or with import duties. Otherwise, european cars should be crazy expensive in the usa lately.

In europe, and especially in Italy, we have smaller cars, with smaller engines, because we have few space and a lot of people live in small areas. So, on small cars, OEM fit small engines, which should have low fuel consumption. This is not true, but people still have this idea in their mind, and OEM and governments push on it.

Emher 02-09-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats (Post 1465909)
I am so happy that my new 2010 Camaro SS manual is in my garage waiting for that damn snow to go away. Can´t it be spring here in Sweden soon....!! Ordered it end of May and it arrived to me early November. Odometer reading is only 100 miles. I want to drive my car! It was not cheap to import this car to Sweden and I want to enjoy it NOW!

Oh man if you know that you're going to be in the Norrtälje area, let me know. Would love to hear the beast in person!

(Varför skriver jag på Engelska till en Svensk för? xD)

tonytahoe 02-09-2010 06:08 PM

OK, the new Camaro Convertible available in Europe next year!? Are you kidding me.Chevy cannot even tell us when the 'vert will be available here in the US and NOW thet are saying they will sell it in Europe?--What is wrong with these people?--They are trying to drive the price up on the car already by coming out with this only 20,000 units the first year.--I am fed up.I am buying a 458 Italia instead.

NSCRFN3 02-09-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeler NY (Post 1465207)
So are you saying the convertible will be available in Europe before we can get it here in the US???:iono:

No offense to anyone! But I sure hope they fill the US orders first! They would have to. There would be a lot of very :mad0260: people if not. I know I have been waiting too long now and stuck it out for it to go down like that! :yikes:

EvolutioN 02-09-2010 07:05 PM

Hey good news I see. Happy for you guys in Europe (Speciellt Sverige) that are finally able to get some fun "New School" American muscle.

Have fun and stay safe.

// Chris (Formerly from Gävle, now in PA)

DGthe3 02-09-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevydude26 (Post 1464887)
What about the US

What about what about the US? The coupe is available now and the vert goes into production in 1 year, give or take 6 weeks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeler NY (Post 1465207)
So are you saying the convertible will be available in Europe before we can get it here in the US???:iono:

No. Vert is available next year in the US as well. At the very least they will be available at the same time but likely they will introduce the 2012 Camaro to Europe.
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Originally Posted by Maa107 (Post 1465289)
So will it be cheaper in the US or Europe?

It will be cheaper in the US. American cars that get imported to Europe are quite expensive
Quote:

Originally Posted by dstairs (Post 1465872)
Did they say they were building the car at Oshawa or even that the cars sold in Europe are being built in North America?

To my knowledge, GM doesn't have a plant that is capable of building the Camaro in Europe. The only other one might be in Australia where they make other Zeta cars, like the former G8. And they won't set one up for the extremely low volume that it will sell in Europe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonytahoe (Post 1466549)
OK, the new Camaro Convertible available in Europe next year!? Are you kidding me.Chevy cannot even tell us when the 'vert will be available here in the US and NOW thet are saying they will sell it in Europe?--What is wrong with these people?--They are trying to drive the price up on the car already by coming out with this only 20,000 units the first year.--I am fed up.I am buying a 458 Italia instead.

Convertible goes into production 1st quarter of 2011. Should be for sale a few weeks after that.

BTW, 20,000 units? The 2010 Camaro has sold 67,000 so far with 85,000 2010's built with a few months of production left.


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