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caverman 02-09-2010 03:42 PM

My price version of the Magnaflow 2.5 Comp Series exhaust
 
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This is the documentation of my price version of the Magnaflow 2.5 Comp Series axle-back system. Although it wont be 100% as good it should be real close at approximately the cost or less. Plus, I have read in a few threads how the factory exhaust seems to be very efficient but quiet so using our factory pipes should work well enough.

This is what Ill be attempting to replicate. If you shop around you can pick up this system for about $945. http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...one=all&id=126

This is also very similar to the SOLO Mach-X system which is $750 delivered. I was on the fence with just buying the SOLO system but I figured I could save myself the cost of the Hurst Shifter I plan on getting. AgainI know that the SOLO system would ultimately be better but Im limited on $$$ and if this works out Im going to feel better about getting it done at such a reasonable price.

Ive ordered an LS3 but the same can be done on an L99.

Here is the plan:
-Remove factory H-Pipe and replace with Magnaflow resonated X-pipe (#1386)
-Remove the factory resonators
-Do a muffler delete using the 4 Magnaflow tips (#35121)

I asked members on this forum in the TX sub-group about muffler shops and I eventually found one that quoted a muffler delete for $80 and X-pipe install for about $100 depending on needed pipe. Im going to be conservative and say $150+$80+tax for ~$250 to install.

I ordered my parts from JDP Motorsports and got a great deal. So far I have $173 in parts to my door. With the estimated $250 install I should be able to get this done for about $425 or possibly less. I really like the looks of the Magnaflow tips but I could have saved myself almost $100 if I wanted to use the factory tips. IMO I think the Maganaflow tips look a lot better and its worth the extra money for these.

The parts came in today and Im really excited to get my car now. I should be picking it up in about a week and I plan on going to the muffler shop the day I get it or maybe the next day. The tips were larger looking than I expected. I can only imagine how big the 5 must look on Magnaflows axle-back system.

Here are some pics to start with and I plan on documenting everything along the way and will eventually get some sounds clips to go with it as well. The pics of the inside of the #1386 didnt come out as well as I liked but I can definitely see the X inside the muffler and from the pics you can see how it is perforated.

caper 02-09-2010 03:50 PM

yep, thats what i am gonna do too, except i used stock tips, and will be using the non resonated xpipe (i think) - see how it all works out :)

caverman 02-09-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by caper (Post 1465899)
yep, thats what i am gonna do too, except i used stock tips, and will be using the non resonated xpipe (i think) - see how it all works out :)

If you don't have your X-Pipe yet you might want to consider using the #11386. It should help out with some of the decel popping you'll get with the non-resonated one.

Also....the way I looked at it is that Magnaflow could've used any X-pipe they wanted with the muffler delete and they chose the #11386. I think it's actually a little bit cheaper as well.

Camar0wn3d 02-09-2010 04:21 PM

:clap: Dude...you HAVE to post a sound clip as soon as you get it installed. Subscribed.

2010 SSRS 02-09-2010 04:24 PM

Awesome idea

TommyTSquared 02-09-2010 05:10 PM

I'm glad you FINALLY made your decision! :D

caverman 02-09-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyTSquared (Post 1466130)
I'm glad you FINALLY made your decision! :D

:D Yeah...back and forth I know....and I'm still hoping I made the right decision although I don't see how it won't be a good setup.

If you think I was wishy washy about the exhaust you should've read some of my emails on deciding if I should even get the car or not.

Now....if the car will just get here and this stupid COLD weather would finally go away I might be able to finally get this done!

My freakin window was frozen shut this morning.:yikes: 24 this morning and I don't even know what the wind chil was. We are from TX....this stuff isn't supposed to happen down here.

TommyTSquared 02-09-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by caverman (Post 1466163)
:D Yeah...back and forth I know....and I'm still hoping I made the right decision although I don't see how it won't be a good setup.

If you think I was wishy washy about the exhaust you should've read some of my emails on deciding if I should even get the car or not.

Now....if the car will just get here and this stupid COLD weather would finally go away I might be able to finally get this done!

My freakin window was frozen shut this morning.:yikes: 24 this morning and I don't even know what the wind chil was. We are from TX....this stuff isn't supposed to happen down here.

Don't you dare complain to be about wind until you've been out here!!! :laugh:

Just hope that since we're actually have a cold winter we'll get a few years of the warm ones we're accustomed to! :thumbsup:

JDP Motorsports 02-09-2010 06:03 PM

Nice!!! I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out as well as the sound!!! Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions!! We appreciate your business and have a great day!!! :chevy:

Kind regards,

axis 02-09-2010 06:43 PM

Replacing a pair of mufflers with a resonated X-pipe is bound to be pretty loud. I guess we'll see just how loud. :D

Cacadeech 02-09-2010 07:21 PM

You're right, that set up is pretty much exactly the same (including tips) as the SOLO and the SOLO sounds great. You've got some work to do but if it means saving cash, it's worth it. Anyway post a sound clip when you can.

GraysonPeace 02-09-2010 07:22 PM

I DIDi mine yesterday.We used the exact same MagnaFFlow part and deleted the same parts as pictured above only used the muffler guys pipes and used the stock tips.$200. We expected it to be much louder but it was not. The sound is much deeper and sounds like it looks. We are very happy.

JDP Motorsports 02-09-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by axis (Post 1466468)
Replacing a pair of mufflers with a resonated X-pipe is bound to be pretty loud. I guess we'll see just how loud. :D

It is basically the same set-up as the Magnaflow 16580 minus the mandrel-bent tubing. It will sound very similar. HERE is the sound file.

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Originally Posted by Cacadeech (Post 1466594)
You're right, that set up is pretty much exactly the same (including tips) as the SOLO and the SOLO sounds great. You've got some work to do but if it means saving cash, it's worth it. Anyway post a sound clip when you can.

It's actually like the Magnaflow 16580 but with 4" tips opposed to 5". :D

toehead93 02-09-2010 08:47 PM

Nice write up. Same thing I'm doing!

Jferrell88 02-09-2010 10:17 PM

this is interesting excited for results i love magnaflow stuff just wish it was louder

2010SSRSM6 02-09-2010 11:57 PM

Sounds nice. Looking forward to the results. What is this cold stuff you speak of? It was 70 here today. (30 and raining now, but still) :D

The best part about California, the weather. The worst part, everything else.

Jekyll-N-Hyde 02-10-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by caverman (Post 1466163)

If you think I was wishy washy about the exhaust you should've read some of my emails on deciding if I should even get the car or not.
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Nooooooooo you were not. All in Good reason its good you have a good head on your shoulders and think things through thats why you got others who think the same way and stand by when you need a 2nd opinion.

In time In time :thumbsup:

btw exhaust is going to sound good. I think you made a good choice with everything that you have chosen to go with and do :thumbsup:


I will put money on it both of our cars will show up or be at the dealership at the same time lol Mines expected there Friday ( then there is the weather )

David

Johnwayne 02-10-2010 03:10 PM

Yep the camaro comes with 2.5 mandrell bent pipes anyway! Mine was dirt cheap

caverman 02-15-2010 11:31 PM

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Ok...picked up the car today and drove straight to the muffler shop after letting the wife drive it around a little. By the time I got to the shop I have about 35 miles on it.

I only have pics at the moment. I accidentally left the camcorder at home but I plan on getting some video this week.

Here is my conclusion:
For the money this is a GREAT upgrade! The stock exhaust is just way to quiet and although this is still not extremely loud it is a nice deep tone and is loud enough to slightly here it in the cabin even with the music up some. I am very happy with the sound.

Because this is done by hand the welds aren't quite as nice as I would like but again for the price I can't complain at all and as long as you're not under the car you'll never see them. The shop also used standard aluminized exhaust pipe instead of stainless steel but again for the money and the fact that I'll probably change out this system to a 3" one once I get headers I can't complain at all.
I would say that if I had a little extra money I might have gone with the SOLO Mach-X but since I'll be able to buy a Hurst Shifter with the left over money I'm still glad I went this route.

The shop originally quoted me $130 to do it all but he started complaining that it took a little longer than he thought. I ended up giving him $150 but I bet he charges around the $175 range next time. So I have $173 in parts plus $150 in labor for a total of $325. I wouldve had about $225 in this setup if I decided to not go with the Magnaflow tips. I'm glad I choose the Magnaflow tips but the factory ones are not bad at all and I'm sure most will just re-use the factory ones.

I would definitely recommend this combination to anyone (resonated X-pipe, no resonators, muffler delete). If you have a little extra money then I would say go with a SOLO Mach-X for $750. If you're budget minded go with the local shop and spend $225-$350 depending on the tips.

caverman 02-15-2010 11:33 PM

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Waco 02-15-2010 11:51 PM

Can't wait to hear how it sounds.

Camar0wn3d 02-16-2010 10:03 AM

Giggity. Looks great man.

R1CH 02-16-2010 10:32 AM

Glad it turned out like you wanted man, it looks great :thumbup: can't wait to hear how it sounds. I think I may go this route or something similar. I may just cut out the H pipe and resonators and replace it with an un resonated X pipe, then replace the stock trashcan mufflers with some Hushpower Pro Series shortie mufflers. I don't know... I'll wait until I hears yours :D

JANNETTYRACING 02-16-2010 12:12 PM

Maybe recommend a Sawsall instead of a torch for nice clean cuts, otherwise a decent job.

How is the Drone in the cabin?, you said you had to turn your radio up.

caverman 02-16-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING (Post 1488237)
Maybe recommend a Sawsall instead of a torch for nice clean cuts, otherwise a decent job.

How is the Drone in the cabin?, you said you had to turn your radio up.


I agree on the Sawsall....I didn't like some of the welds as much either but then again it was a cheap job. I don't think performance was hindered in any way...just doesn't look as pretty. After all if you re-use your factory tips you can get it done for about the $250-$275 range.

I don't hear any drone that I can tell. It actually sounds really good to me. Then again I've only got about 70 miles on it so you'll have to give me some time to make sure it's not there.

Sorry...if I had a misunderstanding on the radio. I've actually been barely turning it up so I can hear the exhaust :D...I like to listen to that right now. What I was meaning to say is that even if the radio is up some you can still hear it but not by very much. No need to turn up the radio....actually turn it down so you can hear it rolling through the gears.

Again...I think this basic setup whether you do it from a local shop or SOLO Mach-X or Magnaflow Comp Series is a very good choice for these cars. Of course I'm a little bias now. :D


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