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garfin 02-21-2010 09:25 PM

Camaro Disciples Meeting Again this Summer! Provide your input here..
 
Looks like our 3rd meeting will be taking place towards the end of August this year!!:w00t:

Maybe the mods can sticky this thread and y'all can give us your input.
What a huge responsibility, as well as such a great honor to be involved with this initiative.

It's just so gratifying to see that GM and the Camaro Team is so tuned into hearing what Camaro enthusiasts have to say about these cars and the direction that can be taken to make these exceptional vehicles even better than they already are!!

Things are definitely heating up in this market segment and Chevrolet will not tolerate the idea of being anything other than #1!

Please try to keep all suggestions in a positive vein. This is the best way to ensure that your thoughts will be considered and taken seriously!:thumbup:

Best regardSS,

Elie

Mr. Wyndham 02-21-2010 09:31 PM

Of course this will be sticky'd, and thanks so much for offering your time to listen to our thoughts! :thumbsup:

I'm sure you'll get lots of good input!

Is there anything you're looking for in particular?

garfin 02-21-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 1507167)
Of course this will be sticky'd, and thanks so much for offering your time to listen to our thoughts! :thumbsup:

I'm sure you'll get lots of good input!

Is there anything you're looking for in particular?

This is a joy and a pleasure for me to do! If we can all just try to be reasonable and realistic with our expectations... short term goals are great, but don't forget about long-term goals for "down the road" as well!

Best regardSS,

Elie

mtcwby 02-21-2010 09:57 PM

Elie,
First is that, I love this car. I have had alot of cars in 35 years of driving, including every generation of Camaros. This is by far the most exciting car I have ever driven.
That being said, there is one thing I would change.
Interior lighting. The only light from the factory is the one on the overhead console. If you are driving at night and need to turn it on, it is too bright and glares too much and is very hard on your night vision.
I really like the lights on the C6 Corvette's rear view mirror. They shine down on either the driver's or the passenger's lap and don't interfere with night driving.
Also, there is no lighting on the floorboards if you need to find something. And the rear seating area is completely blacked out. None of the light from the dome light reaches back there at all. This makes it very hard to find anything back there. You just have to feel around until you find what you need, or keep a flashlight handy.

Thanks, Don

Mr. Wyndham 02-21-2010 10:00 PM

I suppose I'll add my .02. :D

First off I do want to thank the team for listening to their enthusiasts. It's quite the honor to be incorporated in such a large undertaking as designing a car. And, personally, it's one of the biggest reasons GM is my favorite auto manufacturer. We've seen what a smash hit it's made the 5thgen. I have no doubts this continued relationship will make future models and generations just as if not more successful!! :clap:

For the short term, I'd like to see the team attempt to shave some poundage. Obviously nothing major, since it's largely impossible without a total redesign -- but we've seen that the mufflers alone are a 40lb reduction. Maybe now that you're not rushed to build a brand new car in two years, you can refine little things like that to make the package a little lighter?

Keep at that IRS. I'm sure you haven't tapped its potential yet -- show Ford how how this sort of car is supposed to handle! Make it a Hugger! :thumbsup:

I'd also like to mention a Rev-Matching feature for the manual...similar to what Nissan's 370z offers. I admit I do not know how it works exactly, so I don't know if it's feasible. But it would compliment the Launch Control nicely!

Finally, in the short term, I'd like to see the interior get some attention. MOST of the short list of complaints about this car center around the materials used in the interior. I don't have a problem with it, but I'll admit that nicer materials would be appreciated and silence the nay-sayers.

In the long term, assuming this Alpha Platform rumor is true: I'd like to request, simply, that you try as hard as possible to NOT lose the long-hood, short-deck profile of the car during redesign. I trust you won't, since that profile IS Camaro...but I wanted to put that out there.

Can you also look into fiberglass body panels like the 4th gen and Corvette? I've no doubt it's pricey, but it saves some weight, won't rust, and if GM could do it on inexpensive Saturns, surely you can pull it off on the Camaro.

Thanks team!! And thank you, Garfin!!

sscamaro 02-22-2010 10:47 AM

The two things I would like to see most are HUD and a memory package for seats and mirrors. Other wise I love the car the way it is. I have owned every generation and this by far the best of all. It makes me feel like I'm driving a modern 69 Camaro.

DGthe3 02-22-2010 11:27 AM

Try and correct the 'massive understeer' the SS models are reputed to have. Besides some mild weight reduction, I don't really have anything else to suggest at the moment

fieldgoal00 02-22-2010 11:32 AM

Possibly the keyless entry and start similar to the corvettes, a light on the passenger visor & mirror.

Steeler NY 02-22-2010 11:39 AM

First of all thanks for letting our voices be heard!

I have only a couple of simple request.

#1 HUD I have never had this option but everyone I have talked to that does LOVES it! It would be a nice compliment to a true Mussel car.

#2 MOVE GAS FILL back to the driver side! I donít know why car companies can't make this a standard! so all cars pull up to the pump the same way.

#3 make the "mail slot" on the 8's functional, that looks cheep as a fake air intake.

#4 have interior lighting go across dash from door to door. i know there is DIY ways of doing this but if done at factory it would be nicer.

Thanks for giving us this opportunity for input.

I canít wait for the convertible, this car ROCKS:thumbup:

myold88 02-22-2010 12:19 PM

My Camaro is perfect and all I expected but I would like to be able to disable my AFM on my A6 without any warranty issue. I'm just not a fan of the droan when in 4 cyl mode.

DGthe3 02-22-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeler NY (Post 1508844)
First of all thanks for letting our voices be heard!

I have only a couple of simple request.

#1 HUD I have never had this option but everyone I have talked to that does LOVES it! It would be a nice compliment to a true Mussel car.

#2 MOVE GAS FILL back to the driver side! I donít know why car companies can't make this a standard! so all cars pull up to the pump the same way.

#3 make the "mail slot" on the 8's functional, that looks cheep as a fake air intake.

#4 have interior lighting go across dash from door to door. i know there is DIY ways of doing this but if done at factory it would be nicer.

Thanks for giving us this opportunity for input.

I canít wait for the convertible, this car ROCKS:thumbup:

I love having my fuel door on the passenger side. Its not a Camaro, but its still a 2 door coupe. Usually, if there is a line for driver side pumps there are open spots for passenger side pumps since few bother to drive around or back in. Plus, my door can go wide open without any fear of hitting something.

ART-2008 02-22-2010 01:03 PM

:rolleyes: Two Suggestions:

1) Make an RS package with late 60's style hidden headlights.

2) Come out with a "Customer Loyalty Program" where buyers of a 2010 Camaro get $3000.00 off if they upgrade to the new Z/28 when it becomes available.:laugh:

35th02ss 02-22-2010 01:51 PM

I couldn't agree more with Elie, GM and the team want to know what you as the customers would like to see in the future and any suggestions on what you like/dislike now...

So please give us good suggestions...

Now is the time to give us this so we can take it to the team.....

This will get printed out and taken to the summit sooooo make it good...

Jeremy

RSHugger 02-22-2010 02:08 PM

Not going to assume anything so I will add my two cents here...

Power passenger seat... let the shorter folk see out over that gorgeous hood

Hud... nuff said

Nav system... cool feature but definitely not a major issue

Better interior lighting would be nice

Dash ABL

Z28 is a given...

Exhaust tips like the concept???

Thanks to all of the Disciples and the GM team... this is an awesome car... waiting for the Z but would be happy with the SS. :bow:

SilverTurtle 02-22-2010 02:27 PM

no comment

HTWLSS 02-22-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 1509022)
I love having my fuel door on the passenger side. Its not a Camaro, but its still a 2 door coupe. Usually, if there is a line for driver side pumps there are open spots for passenger side pumps since few bother to drive around or back in. Plus, my door can go wide open without any fear of hitting something.

:word: There's hardly ever any waiting at the pumps to fill on the passenger side! :thumbup:

radz28 02-22-2010 03:23 PM

I'm with those that say leave the filler door where it is, for the same reasons. Not everyone goes to Costco, but I'll say that having the doors on the passengers side makes my wait longer every time.

I'd like to see some more development in the handling department. Dare I say something like a Track Pack and such.

*Cough* Z28 *Cough* :D

I like the idea of having a little more light in the interior too. Obviously finishing the ABL would be cool.

More unique colors. I love some of the greys and blacks that I've seen on some Dodges and imports; ones with a lot of metallics. I like most of the available colors now, but more couldn't hurt.

Some more accessories. It'd be nice to see more support, in the way of performance, much like another one of the Big Three does.

Another vote for higher quality interior materials - leather, etc.

I'd also like to close with thanking those who will be trying to present these suggestions and comments. It's great to have a sense that the company does care about the customer and what they like.

PS - Z28 :D

RobertHarriSS 02-22-2010 03:31 PM

Do something about the paint quality. Very thin, chips SO EASILY. All the people that have fish eyes and containment in the clear coat.

Blackend SS 02-22-2010 03:39 PM

Great! I guess I can give some input.

Steering feel can be a little numb and there is not a lot of feel.

Make the ambient light run across the dash!

Include a HUD.

Include a track pack to compete with the mustang. I believe this car has the potential to really up the ante on this.

The shifter needs to have a shorter throw.

Well thats all I can think of at the momment.

Maybe they should make Carbon Ceramic brakes an option!

talltom 02-22-2010 03:53 PM

Lighter
 
I would love to have a few pounds out of mine.
(Yeah, I've heard that one...)

69 rs/ss 02-22-2010 03:56 PM

I love the car. Z-28 please..... Do everything you can to stay #1 over the others both forign and domestic.

n!ght r!der 02-22-2010 03:56 PM

HUD
and a 4 way power passenger seat

2010SSRS 02-22-2010 03:56 PM

i hope everyone is realistic in understanding the cost increases within every option. this could easily be a $50k car and that's more than i can afford!

with that said, here are my ideas:

1- the 2SS being the top interior package does need AUTO climate control and the memory seats. my wife is 5' tall and changing the mirrors, seats, climate controls, etc just shouldn't be this involved in a $37000 car. and light the homelink buttons too.

2- i would like to see a "COPO" style option. not the famed Z28 (not that there shouldn't be one), but a sleeper style 1SS type thug with an LS7 powered driveline, no badging, no nonsence style brute with no SuperCharger.....just cubic inches at 550rwhp!

srevoal 02-22-2010 04:03 PM

lights on the homelink buttons so you can find them in the dark.

better iphone, itunes genius, and play list support.

stronger buttons on the seatbelt strap holders.

move the cup holders on the manuals.

ABL on the dash.

More presets and programmable presets on the stereo EQ.

power passenger seat.

bigger, lighted, vanity mirrors in sun visors.

blue tooth stereo while bluetooth phone is connected

SLVRPHX 02-22-2010 04:04 PM

Absolutely love my Camaro! The only real problem I've had is some dirt in the paint, but here are some little things I'd like to see:

- Better hook/cord for the gas cap
- Scan / Pause functions on the radio / CD
- Universal Home remote as part of Convenience and Connectivity
- Leather Center Console as part of Convenience and Connectivity
- Convenience and Connectivity option for 1SS
- Memory seats / mirrors
- Height adjustable passenger seat


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