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Mr. Wyndham 03-14-2007 11:49 AM

Transmission feel
 
Most people know, or have realized that when you accelerate fast in an automatic, your fuel economy is decreased.

Having never driven in a standard, I would like to know, Does the same thing happen in a manual?(fuel economy decreased when you accelerate).

TAG UR IT 03-14-2007 12:03 PM

Yes. You're still hitting the gas to make the car go. It doesn't matter which transmission you have. The saving gas part all depends on the driver. You can drive around in a 6spd in 6th gear doing 25 to 30 mph all day long and have no probs what so ever....just reallllly low rpm's but the car still moves. Either way, the engine is still the same and still takes the same amount of gas....it just differes on how fast the car goes when you hit the gas compared to the manual and gear you're in.

Mr. Wyndham 03-14-2007 01:25 PM

Now, I'm curious about the paddle-shifters on cars like the corvette, or the new Malibu-- can you keep the car in, say, sixth all the time like you can in a manual, or will the Auto take over and shift for you if it thinks it's necessary?

IROC'em 03-14-2007 02:09 PM

In automatic transmissions you can put it in D3 and it will still stay in first if you are going too slow. However, it will not go into overdrive (unless you are about to blow) if you have it in D3 but it can go lower. These "paddle" shifters are new to me though, I would imagine it doesnt shift for you but I dunno. Would kinda defeat the purpose of having a shifter on your steering wheel if it still shifted for you imo.

Casull 03-14-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 8435)
Now, I'm curious about the paddle-shifters on cars like the corvette, or the new Malibu-- can you keep the car in, say, sixth all the time like you can in a manual, or will the Auto take over and shift for you if it thinks it's necessary?

Probably not a full manual.... if the RPM range becomes too extreme it will probably change gears. I would imagine it would be like my electronic transmission in my truck. I can put it in second or third, but it always starts in first from a stop and will shift to 3rd and up if the RPMs are too high to avoid damage.

All it does is allow you to have better control of your shift points.

Mr. Wyndham 03-14-2007 02:26 PM

this is kinda where I wanted my Corvette thread to go, I really want to know more about the paddle shifters...

TAG UR IT 03-15-2007 12:11 AM

I would hope paddles would be like a manual tranny. You would put it not in normal drive, but in paddle mode, and shift through the gears just like a 6spd. At least, that's how I hope the paddles would go....hit too high of rpms and the rev limiter would kick in keeping the rpms from going to high and throwing a rod or something.

IROC'em 03-15-2007 07:34 AM

They might be like bump shifters. After you get so much HP out of an engine you are wasting alot of it in a drag because it takes time for you to shift gears manually. But you can shift at more opportune points with manual. So it could just be a speedy manual.

Mr. Wyndham 03-15-2007 11:38 AM

Is it true that you can, in a standard, creep forward like you can in an automatic? Something about releasing the brake and clutch at the same time...

TAG UR IT 03-15-2007 01:04 PM

In a 6spd, you can release the brake on a flat surface while the clutch is still depressed. With a smooth, slow, and steady release of the clutch, you can go forward. Before the clutch is completely released, the veh will begin to roll forward...you just "feather" the clutch until you are in full forward motion. If you want, when you are rolling forward, you can depress the brake pedal ever so slightly and you will slow but not stall out.

Mr. Wyndham 03-15-2007 02:35 PM

Won't that destroy your clutch though?

Casull 03-15-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye (Post 8542)
Won't that destroy your clutch though?

Not at idle speeds.... and rpms as low as that...

TAG UR IT 03-15-2007 10:50 PM

Dump it and it'll take it's toll on the tranny and clutch. I'm talkin smooth and easy. In my last Z28, I blew the transmission. It was stuck in 4th gear and I just about bent the shifter trying to get it out of 4th. I drove that sucka home 5 miles stopping and going hills and all and still made it. Now, THAT, will burn a clutch....talk about smokin...hehe. But, I made it.

Mr. Wyndham 03-16-2007 11:06 AM

That's another concern of mine...Which type of transmission will last longer in my Camaro? I plan on some pretty heavy driving if you know what I mean.

TAG UR IT 03-16-2007 11:22 AM

They'll both go out on you if you depending on your drivin habits. Some will say a manual will go first. Others say an auto can go just as fast if you are driving it hard and using the shifter in racing. Really...it all depends on you and how harsh you are on the tranny. Just don't scrath the gears, make sure it's in gear when you drop the clutch, and don't burn up your clutch.


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