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CamaroSSforme 10-28-2008 01:55 PM

SEMA Preview: GM Performance Parts 638-hp LS9 Crate engine
 
Here it is folks..make your own Z/28

General Motors has announced that the blown beastie that lives under the hood of the Corvette ZR1 will be available as a crate motor next fall and our head is spinning with the swap possibilities.

With 639 hp and 604 lb.-ft. of twist available from the 6.2-liter supercharged V8, and dimensions shared by the LS3, any number of vehicles could make a happy home for the LS9. According to GM, the engine comes fully dressed, with an ignition system, exhaust manifolds and supercharger, and only needs an external oil tank and coolant tank (for the charge cooler), an ECU and wiring harness.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/28/s...-crate-engine/

Yeahyouknwit 10-28-2008 01:58 PM

how much would that beast cost?

The_Blur 10-28-2008 02:13 PM

Firstly, this would not make your car a Z28 clone because there is no Z28 to clone. In other words, you cannot make your own Z28.

Secondly, this would cost way more than you are willing to spend on a Camaro.

radz28 10-28-2008 02:13 PM

I'm thinking about $10K... Ouch! That would put my SS dang near $50K! Youch!!! LSA for me :D

Camaro_Corvette 10-28-2008 02:14 PM

^probably more than that. Plus what sucks is they didn't put the camaro in the poll, i would have definitely voted for it.

Txturbo 10-28-2008 02:16 PM

I think it would be closer to $20K

CamaroSSforme 10-28-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur (Post 174397)
Firstly, this would not make your car a Z28 clone because there is no Z28 to clone. In other words, you cannot make your own Z28.

Secondly, this would cost way more than you are willing to spend on a Camaro.

God almighty guy....did you really need to waste time explaining that the LS9 wouldn 't REALLY make it a Z/28???

Why thank you captain obvious.

The point was that this is what a few expected to be in the Z/28 (or more specifically the LSA)

rolnslo 10-28-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003 (Post 174398)
I'm thinking about $10K... Ouch! That would put my SS dang near $50K! Youch!!! LSA for me :D

I'd plan it being more than that. Street prices for the LS7 are around $13.5k-$15.5k.

headpunter 10-28-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo (Post 174405)
I think it would be closer to $20K

ding ding

Crowley 10-28-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo (Post 174405)
I think it would be closer to $20K

Ouch ... hmmmm wonder how much the ford 5.4L 32V S/C motor is :popcorn:

Edit .. found one with some performance parts on it ....

18.1k or so so 20k wouldn't be unreasonable ...

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=10261

That being said, I wonder how much to put in some forged internals, lower the compression and put some aftermarket s/c or turbos on it .... I bet you could do it for under 20k ..

Crowley

The_Blur 10-28-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSSforme (Post 174406)
God almighty guy....did you really need to waste time explaining that the LS9 wouldn 't REALLY make it a Z/28???

Why thank you captain obvious.

The point was that this is what a few expected to be in the Z/28 (or more specifically the LSA)

:laugh: I don't want anyone to read it wrong and think that a Z28 has been confirmed.

Don't tell people about my secret identity, Captain Obvious, because it will give away my true identity to my enemies. :sm0:

A lot of people for some reason expected the Z28 to be the LSA or LS9. The problem is that they are expecting it when they should merely be hoping for it. When we put expectations like these on GM, a lot of people get disappointed when the reality is that the Camaro is neither GM's flagship nor the top moneymaker. GM has a lot of other platforms to improve and build before a Z28 becomes a top priority. Hopefully, GM is hugely profitable again in a couple of years, and a Z28 becomes a real possibility. Until then, we should hope, not expect, that GM again builds performance editions, like the Z28. :thumbsup:

DGthe3 10-28-2008 03:42 PM

I'd guess it will be about 20k as well, which would make it impossible for a sub 50k Z28.

baileyrx 10-28-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 174508)
I'd guess it will be about 20k as well, which would make it impossible for a sub 50k Z28.

dont forget to minus the cost of the ls3 you won't be using:)

carfansince73 10-28-2008 03:49 PM

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I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:


Edit: I should have said those sticky size 335mm rear tires. :D

Sizzox 10-28-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by carfansince73 (Post 174513)
I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:

YUP

from http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181702

Burnouts at 75 mph
We're barely out of Phoenix before the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 lays down the gauntlet, or more accurately, the stripes. That's right, drop the ZR1 into 3rd gear, nail the throttle and it will light up the back tires at 75 mph before launching you into triple digits.

DGthe3 10-28-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baileyrx (Post 174509)
dont forget to minus the cost of the ls3 you won't be using:)

+beefier suspension
+light weight body panels
+extra profit

Crowley 10-28-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3 (Post 174521)
+beefier suspension
+light weight body panels
+extra profit

+ they won't make it cheaper than the Gt500 .. lol ...

Crowley

GTAHVIT 10-28-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by baileyrx (Post 174509)
dont forget to minus the cost of the ls3 you won't be using:)

I've been wondering about that. Based on a conversation I had with Robert91RS, We're not sure you get a credit/core for the existing motor. You may have to sell it on Ebay.... :iono:

themossman 10-28-2008 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur (Post 174397)
Firstly, this would not make your car a Z28 clone because there is no Z28 to clone. In other words, you cannot make your own Z28.

Secondly, this would cost way more than you are willing to spend on a Camaro.

If you drop an LS9 into the camaro you can call it anything you want....except 'slow'.

radz28 10-28-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur (Post 174491)
:laugh: I don't want anyone to read it wrong and think that a Z28 has been confirmed.

Don't tell people about my secret identity, Captain Obvious, because it will give away my true identity to my enemies. :sm0:

A lot of people for some reason expected the Z28 to be the LSA or LS9. The problem is that they are expecting it when they should merely be hoping for it. When we put expectations like these on GM, a lot of people get disappointed when the reality is that the Camaro is neither GM's flagship nor the top moneymaker. GM has a lot of other platforms to improve and build before a Z28 becomes a top priority. Hopefully, GM is hugely profitable again in a couple of years, and a Z28 becomes a real possibility. Until then, we should hope, not expect, that GM again builds performance editions, like the Z28. :thumbsup:

For some reason I kept thinking about how 'Father mentioned how expensive the LS7 is and it wouldn't be practical for this kind of model - DOAH. Same crank, rods, and some other goodies, LOL! BUT, don't forget the LS7 has CNC ported heads that are totally different than the LS3 head that is roto-cast. That might make up for the cost of the supercharger, also, that means no intake manifold since it's integrated onto the supercharger. HOWEVER, the LS7 doesn't have a dual-mode fuel system, like the LS9 and LSA. BUT, the LSA doesn't need the dry sump system the LS7 and LS9 need. BUT, the LS7 doesn't have oil piston squirters like LS9 and LSA. Pistons are forged in the LS9; bigger head bolts; more head gasket layers; different water pump; nine bolt flywheel with twin disc clutch; blah blah blah...

On second thought - you guys near the $20Ks - I'm with you...

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Originally Posted by carfansince73 (Post 174513)
I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:

ARE YOU KIDDING?!!! ME!!! :D:chevy:

themossman 10-28-2008 09:49 PM

hmmm....wouldn't this be the modern ZL1???

DGthe3 10-28-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by themossman (Post 174922)
hmmm....wouldn't this be the modern ZL1???

Using the LS7 would be more appropriate: Aluminum 427.

Camaro_Corvette 10-28-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sizzox (Post 174519)
YUP

from http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181702

Burnouts at 75 mph
We're barely out of Phoenix before the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 lays down the gauntlet, or more accurately, the stripes. That's right, drop the ZR1 into 3rd gear, nail the throttle and it will light up the back tires at 75 mph before launching you into triple digits.

Jeebus!

TAG UR IT 10-28-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo (Post 174405)
I think it would be closer to $20K

:word:
Quote:

Originally Posted by carfansince73 (Post 174513)
I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:

:wave:...right here, bud! ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

Supermans 10-29-2008 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carfansince73 (Post 174513)
I read on Edmunds that the ZR1 can smoke the tires in third gear at 75mph. Who the heck would want to do that in their Camaro?? ;) :burnrubber:

That's just insane..


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