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GearHeadPeter 07-21-2010 01:40 PM

DIY for 2010-11 Camaro ACC LED Side Marker Mods for Turn Signals
 
Hi All,

We all know that our side markers do not blink with our turn signals. :iono:

I worked with Jonathan from AAC in getting their LED front amber and rear red side markers. Jonathan also hooked me up with their dual intensity harness that will allow you to install the new LED side markers, but also make them blink with your Camaro's turn signals.

This what the LED side marker looks like in the car:



AAC will now install for $75 all the dual-intensity circuits for each LED side marker.

Front:

To get to the front side markers turn the steering wheel so that you can get access to the three Torx screws on the inner fender liner along the side of the side marker. Remove the three Torx screws starting from the bottom and working your way up. Gently pry back the inner fender shield to get your hand in there. You will need just a bit of clearance to get you hand by the side marker. Using a 6" flat bladed screw driver to push on the tab through a small slot facing the passenger firewall. The side marker will come out, but be careful not to scratch the paint. There is a small tab on the plug that locks the wiring harness to the side marker. Using a small jewelers flat bladed screw driver gently pry up on the tab and pull the harness off the side marker.

Before you install the new modified LED side markers you will need to connect a 4 foot 16 ga. black wire to the Red wire that is coming out of the housing of the new marker.

I chose black wire so that it blends in more in the engine compartment. You can do this in one of three ways. Solder the wires together and use 1/8" shrink tubing over the soldered connections, use a butt-connector to crimp the two wires together, or in my case I wanted to be able to disconnect the wire from the new marker in case I needed to take off the front fascia so I used a solder type single contact molded male/female connector that is water tight. If you want to go this route PM me and I can give you the part numbers and place I bought mine from.

The reason I had you take off the three Torx screws was so that you can fish the wire from the AAC LED side marker through the inner fender shield into the engine compartment. Install the new side AAC LED side marker and make sure that the wire coming from the new modified side marker clears the opening that the marker will go into. Take the end of the wire that is lose and find an opening to the engine compartment to put the wire through. This is a bit of trial and error, but will not take too long.

You need to disconnect the turn signal bulb. On the driver’s side it is a bit interesting as you need to move the air scoop from the stock air box to get to the turn signal bulb. To do this it is easiest if you open the air box, remove the filter and you will see the air scoop sitting towards the front of the air box. Press in on either side to release the tabs that hold it in place and gently push the air scoop into the air box as far as it can go. You will now have access to the turn signal bulb on the driver’s side.

Once the bulb is out there is a plastic black wiring wrap around the wires. This wrap has a slit in it to put the wires for the turn signal through. You will want to put the new wire into that wiring wrap if possible of if you want to do it down and dirty just ty-wrap the wire to the outside. Again I was going for a factory look. About 4" from the turn signal bulb peel back the wrap that houses the wires for the turn signal. The wire you want is the Blue/White wire. For this I used a splice-connector. The Blue/White wire goes towards the outside while the black wire goes towards the inner side where there is a stop for it. Using a pair of pliers you will compress the metal tab into the wires. Once that is done you can close the splice-connector.

Try out your new modified AAC LED side markers and turn signals. A bonus from all of this is now when you set your car alarm not only will the turn signals blink, but also the new LED side markers.

Pull out the air scoop so that it locks back in place again, and install the air filter and close up the box. Now if you have a CAI installed your directions to get to the driver's bulb might be different, and I will leave you to figure out how do that to you. Now go do the other side and enjoy the new modified AAC LED side markers and your new turn indicators.

Rear:

Before you install the new modified rear AAC LED side markers you will need to connect a 4 foot 16 ga. black wire to the Red wire that is coming out of the housing of the new marker.

Getting to the rear side markers. Where the bumper meets the body above the rear wheel there is a 9 or 10 MM bolt, remove it.

Next remove the three Torx screws that are holding the inner fender well to the bumper. Gently, and I mean gently, pull the bumper cover back from where the bumper cover meets the body. As you gently pull back the bumper cover slide your hand in between the body and bumper cover. There are three tabs that hold the cover to the body. With the hand that is behind the bumper cover push the cover gently towards you as you gently pull the cover.

The trick to is get the cover to unhinge from each tab one at a time. If you try to yank the cover off too fast you will break the tab holder on the cover, and Yes I broke one, but it was close to the side marker.

There is a wiring harness that runs from the tail lights through the body inside the trunk. In this harness is where you use the splice connector to tap into the right/left rear turn signal wires.

To see the trap doors and wiring harness open the trunk. Unscrew all the weird tie down hooks, six of them, and take out the plastic piece. Moving the each sides trunk insulation will allow you to see the trap doors and wiring harness more clearly. The is one push in snap in the top of the felt sound deadening. Feel around in the back up towards the top of the trunk area. You will need to take that out w/o breaking it. You can now move the covering out of the way and see the trap doors and the taillight wiring harness. The trap doors are covered by a rubber membrane against a plastic housing. This lets the pressure out of the trunk when you close it. You route the wire that you attached the 4 foot black wire to from each rear LED side marker through there and using a wire splice tap into the turn signal harness that runs to the tail lights.

Rear Drivers side wire is Yellow/Black on main wiring harness from body to turn signal lights.

Rear Passenger side wire is Green/White on main wiring harness from body to turn signal lights.

The rear side markers will now blink with each rear turn signal. On a side note, because the turn signal and brake light are dual purpose filament bulbs when the brake pedal is depressed the rear side markers will also light up with the rear brake lights.

The brake portion lights up both filaments, whereas the turn signal only lights up one. When braking and turning at the same time the rear side maker will continue to blink. The only time the rear side markers are brighter than the normal running lights are when braking or turning.

When reinstalling the bumper cover start by the rear marker and gently push the cover back over each tab. When you get to the last tab, above the wheel you will need to use your hand that is behind the cover to move the bumper cover tabs that are closest to the wheel over the hard plastic honey-comb to get the last tab to snap into place. Reinstall all the screws and your are done.


thespymaster 07-21-2010 01:53 PM

Ok, I want this mod for the AAC side markers!!

GearHeadPeter 07-21-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thespymaster (Post 2125248)
Ok, I want this mod for the AAC side markers!!

Awesome car, and great message. We should never forget those that have served in our military, and more importantly have fallen for our protection. Thanks.

GearHeadPeter 07-21-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thespymaster (Post 2125248)
Ok, I want this mod for the AAC side markers!!

Here is the pic of the AAC LED side marker and dual intensity wiring harness.

The second pic is of the dual intensity wiring harness installed in the LED side marker. The shrink tubing is 1/8".

The third, fourth, and fifth pics are the spot on the marker assy that I will drill to put the turn signal wire through.

The sixth pic is of the fully assembled LED side maker with turn signal wire through the marker. After you have pulled the red wire through the hole put a some clear silicone to prevent water intrusion.

The seventh pic is of the LED side marker with just the running light on. View the video to see what it looks like as it would blink.

Kendell347 07-21-2010 02:18 PM

Not a bad idea considering the Camaro didn't come with side flashers

CamaroSkooter 07-21-2010 04:25 PM

Why don't you wire the dual-intensity circuit into the vehicle wires instead of inside the AAC side marker fixture?

Conceivably you could do this mod for all cars, not just AAC LED side marker equipped cars...

:popcorn:

GearHeadPeter 07-21-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter (Post 2125915)
Why don't you wire the dual-intensity circuit into the vehicle wires instead of inside the AAC side marker fixture?

Conceivably you could do this mod for all cars, not just AAC LED side marker equipped cars...

:popcorn:

You could, but remember to make it work you have to then cut your factory harness to splice in the dual-intensity circuit between the hot lead for the bulb. I did not want to do that, but you could per the instructions. GM should have done this for us. :thumbsup:

CamaroSkooter 07-22-2010 06:42 AM

You don't have to do any splicing. You could find the part number for the male and female ends of the OEM plugs and create a "harness" of sorts. ;)

GearHeadPeter 07-22-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter (Post 2128170)
You don't have to do any splicing. You could find the part number for the male and female ends of the OEM plugs and create a "harness" of sorts. ;)

Good idea.

I tried the conversion, dual-intensity circuit, on a normal side marker, and the running light barely comes on. When you use the turn signal the light gets much brighter, but the running light is basically off, which I would think might get you a ticket in some states. I would have to think, IMO that the dual-intensity circuit was made specifically for the LED side markers and not the incandescent bulbs. ;)

Dr.Bender 07-22-2010 10:05 AM

I like it!

Pumpkin1LT 07-22-2010 10:06 AM

GREAT! Just ANOTHER reason to go broke for AAC.... THANKS AGAIN JONATHAN!

That's very cool!

GearHeadPeter 07-22-2010 10:12 AM

I will post the pics of the installed side markers in the car within the next week, as it has been really hot here, 110 degrees with about 50% humidity, which makes it really uncomfortable to work in the garage. I will also have a video to show how the side markers look normal, and then with them blinking with the turn signals.

Hey Dr. B, how do you like your ride?

CamaroSkooter 07-22-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GearHeadPeter (Post 2128767)
Good idea.

I tried the conversion, dual-intensity circuit, on a normal side marker, and the running light barely comes on. When you use the turn signal the light gets much brighter, but the running light is basically off, which I would think might get you a ticket in some states. I would have to think, IMO that the dual-intensity circuit was made specifically for the LED side markers and not the incandescent bulbs. ;)

What that tells me is the diode just needs to be changed. It's my understanding that AAC gets those dual-intensity circuits from an outside vendor, so conceivably that vendor may have a version of the dual-intensity circuit that will work flawlessly with the factory sidemarkers. I suppose that would just take a little extra research on yours or AAC's part...

GearHeadPeter 07-22-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter (Post 2128847)
What that tells me is the diode just needs to be changed. It's my understanding that AAC gets those dual-intensity circuits from an outside vendor, so conceivably that vendor may have a version of the dual-intensity circuit that will work flawlessly with the factory sidemarkers. I suppose that would just take a little extra research on yours or AAC's part...

That is probably true, but there are two diodes, which I could not identify, and one resistor which I did not look at in the circuit. Double shrink tube on the circuit, and did not want to mess around with it too much. :iono:

Since I wanted the LED side markers I will leave that up to AAC or someone else to research. I'm happy with what I have, and just thought to share with everyone in case anyone else wanted to do a LED side marker/turn signal conversion like I am.

BOULI306 10-31-2010 07:32 PM

Because in Europe we must have side turn indicators i am really interested in this mod. But i have a question. Did you make the dual intensity wire yourself and does it simply make the LED's light up brighter??

And last question, If i wanted to use them for turn signal only will this be difficult to do?

Thanks

GearHeadPeter 11-01-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BOULI306 (Post 2502043)
Because in Europe we must have side turn indicators i am really interested in this mod. But i have a question. Did you make the dual intensity wire yourself and does it simply make the LED's light up brighter??

And last question, If i wanted to use them for turn signal only will this be difficult to do?

Thanks

I bought the dual-intensity circuit from AAC and had to solder them in. AAC now gives everyone the option to have the dual-intensity circuit installed for them for an additional $75. Considering what I did that is worth it IMO.

The standard LED side marker light w/o the dual-intensity circuit is very bright. In the AAC modification the side marker LED is a bit dimmer, but when the turn signal comes on it really is very bright.

To use them as only turn signals you would need to wire them directly to the each turn signal wire and ground, and not go through the side maker circuit. If that is what you want then you would not need the dual-intensity circuit as that is for having a side marker and also a functional turn signal.

Hope that helps. :thumbsup:

BOULI306 11-20-2010 10:29 AM

What wire do i need to find and splice in the car for the turn signal? I know it's probably very next to the normal turn signal. But it would be easy if somebody could tell me which color the wire is.

Thanks!! I received the lights today and want to install them ASAP, they look great!:thumbup::headbang:

GearHeadPeter 11-21-2010 08:57 AM

For the front turn signals on each turn signal the wire you want is the Blue/White wire.

Rear Drivers side wire is Yellow/Black on main wiring harness from body to turn signal lights.

Rear Passenger side wire is Green/White on main wiring harness from body to turn signal lights. :thumbsup:

BOULI306 11-21-2010 05:18 PM

Thanks, Gearhead. That hepls me out bigtime you:headbang:!!:thumbup:

GearHeadPeter 11-22-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BOULI306 (Post 2568204)
Thanks, Gearhead. That hepls me out bigtime you:headbang:!!:thumbup:

No problem, and enjoy them. :D

Jonathan@AACstyle.com 11-24-2010 09:18 AM

Thanks for the write up Peter! Instructions are very detailed and helpful to anyone that wants to do this mod!

notagoat 11-29-2010 01:07 PM

Ordered a ton of stuff from you guys today (HID conversion, led fogs, sidemarkers, interior lighting, and license plate) and I can't wait to receive it!

GearHeadPeter 11-29-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notagoat (Post 2590866)
Ordered a ton of stuff from you guys today (HID conversion, led fogs, sidemarkers, interior lighting, and license plate) and I can't wait to receive it!

You are going to love the LED Side markers and turn signals. One thing I forgot to mention in addition to having the rear side markers now blink, but when you step on the brake the side markers will also illuminate so you will now have 7 lights in the back of the car to tell someone to stop.

Don't worry if you are braking and turning at the same time the rear side markers will still blink. The lights for the turn and brake lights are dual filament and since we tapped into the turn light it also acts as brake light.

Enjoy. :headbang:

rydahog 12-03-2010 08:50 PM

picts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GearHeadPeter (Post 2590893)
You are going to love the LED Side markers and turn signals. One thing I forgot to mention in addition to having the rear side markers now blink, but when you step on the brake the side markers will also illuminate so you will now have 7 lights in the back of the car to tell someone to stop.

Don't worry if you are braking and turning at the same time the rear side markers will still blink. The lights for the turn and brake lights are dual filament and since we tapped into the turn light it also acts as brake light.

Enjoy. :headbang:

hey gearhead,,,you got the picts yet of the turn sigs?? and blinking..:happyanim:

GearHeadPeter 12-20-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rydahog (Post 2605826)
hey gearhead,,,you got the picts yet of the turn sigs?? and blinking..:happyanim:

Sorry I will get the video done tonight. I was working on my other Muscle car and that was keeping me busy.


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