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Forum: Chevy Camaro vs... 07-01-2012, 12:05 PM
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Posted By oortcloud
The original goal, I thought, was to pit these 2...

The original goal, I thought, was to pit these 2 cars against each other since the gt500 supporters here were getting irritated with the unfairness of the biased mags.

The result wasn't anything...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-01-2012, 09:43 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 10,805
Posted By oortcloud
I've been wondering this since I read it, did...

I've been wondering this since I read it, did Randy experience brake pad fade or bake fluid fade?

From they way it was described in the article it sounds more like brake pad fade. Although it's...
Forum: Chevy Camaro vs... 07-01-2012, 09:17 AM
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Views: 7,716
Posted By oortcloud
Yep, I assumed he would have the HE and maybe a...

Yep, I assumed he would have the HE and maybe a more powerful pump. But some people, such as me, are waiting to see the effectiveness of this on a road course where you already have a large...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-01-2012, 02:22 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 10,805
Posted By oortcloud
My understanding is that Van posted here...

My understanding is that Van posted here challenging someone to race him. He's an experienced driver affiliated with a mustang parts shop. Torq accepted the challenge and they agreed on mods. ...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-01-2012, 01:36 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 10,805
Posted By oortcloud
I would say brake fade is a product of heat. ...

I would say brake fade is a product of heat. Which can be alleviated with proper pads, rotors, fluid and cooling. I'm sure you know more about this than I do.

Motor trend came to the...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-01-2012, 01:07 AM
Replies: 110
Views: 14,785
Posted By oortcloud
You kind of contradicted yourself there. You say...

You kind of contradicted yourself there. You say its one of the most advanced, if not the most, advanced suspension systems on a car. Then at the same time no one is supposed to be impressed. What...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 07-01-2012, 12:45 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 10,805
Posted By oortcloud
If this is supposed to be a response to the brake...

If this is supposed to be a response to the brake fade issue that Mr. Pobst encountered, sorry, but it doesn't convince me. No offense to you but I trust Randy's ability to push the car more and I...
Forum: Chevy Camaro vs... 06-30-2012, 11:35 PM
Replies: 57
Views: 7,716
Posted By oortcloud
I really don't know the actual skill level of...

I really don't know the actual skill level of either driver. Van mentioned he was an instructor so obviously he has quite a bit of experience.

If I had my zl1 and someone of equal skill...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-30-2012, 10:49 PM
Replies: 110
Views: 14,785
Posted By oortcloud
If they redesign the camaro to be like the viper...

If they redesign the camaro to be like the viper for 55k count me in! In the meantime I'm waiting for my blue ray metallic zl1, which may take a few months. I will buy which ever comes out first!
Forum: Chevy Camaro vs... 06-30-2012, 10:37 PM
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Views: 7,716
Posted By oortcloud
So basically Van 1 - Torq 0. And Torq did a...

So basically Van 1 - Torq 0.

And Torq did a pulley tune, right? If he was a skilled driver he should been able to hold his own without it.
Forum: Camaro Price | Ordering | Tracking | Dealers Discussions 06-30-2012, 01:49 PM
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Posted By oortcloud
Awesome! Can't wait to see pics of the new blue.

Awesome! Can't wait to see pics of the new blue.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 08:49 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
If you look close in the video around 9:10 you...

If you look close in the video around 9:10 you can see the dash. It looks like the non-nav configuration. I'm not 100% on this but that's what it looks like to me.

So I think it did indeed have...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 06:49 PM
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Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
The ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 is not fair because the...

The ZL1 vs. 2013 GT500 is not fair because the ZL1 has superior suspension and braking components. :)

The 2013 gt500 is holding up pretty good though I must admit. But even with 8k in extra...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 01:09 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
Yep, I lived in the ATL for 9 years previously. ...

Yep, I lived in the ATL for 9 years previously. But originally from Louisiana. So the heat and humidity will be like home. :) Of course, it's not exactly freezing where I'm at now either!
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 12:52 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
Oh yeah, I think maybe my words came out a little...

Oh yeah, I think maybe my words came out a little off. I'm definitely not chasing after the new fad. I'm an american living in a country where 4 cylinder engines are the norm. It's driving me...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 12:26 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
And that's exactly what I'm doing. Straight...

And that's exactly what I'm doing.

Straight line speed the shelby's got it. No argument there. Its really impressive.

But on a road course the zl1's got it. It's not as clear cut because...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 11:13 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
I'm not sure I understand your point. I'm...

I'm not sure I understand your point. I'm certainly not telling someone how to spend their money. I'm mearly asking why should I pay more?

How can I take those 2 cars out of the equation? The...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 10:21 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
It will be interesting to see if in a year or two...

It will be interesting to see if in a year or two they offer the ZL1 in Europe. I know they sell all the vettes and the Camaro SS there. Lots of tracks there too. Would be fun.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
It doesn't matter if you finance or not. That...

It doesn't matter if you finance or not. That money still comes out of your pocket.

Are you really trying to say the difference between 55k and 65k is not that great? I can't even believe we are...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 09:25 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
I'm not a ford engineer, so take this for what...

I'm not a ford engineer, so take this for what its worth, but the current theory is that the reason there is no brake duct option is because it would effect aero. It might cause lift at high speed. ...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 08:29 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,477
Posted By oortcloud
Don't have my zl1 yet. (Heck I'm not even back...

Don't have my zl1 yet. (Heck I'm not even back in the states yet.) But it will definitely see some tracks. 2 nice tracks in atlanta, one of them is brand new, another in savannah, and others in...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 06:38 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
How hard are you going to continue to push in a...

How hard are you going to continue to push in a situation like this? It becomes a safety issue. "Serious fade" are the words they use. I don't think they had any choice but to take a break and let...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 05:11 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
It went up $255. Here's the price I paid for my...

It went up $255. Here's the price I paid for my 2013:

base 55,250
bright wheels 470
nav 795
gg tax 1,300

total 57,815

The suede seat inserts and mytouch are standard. They do have a...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 02:55 PM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
I guess you're a rich guy then. Good for you. ...

I guess you're a rich guy then. Good for you.

But for me, price most certainly is an argument. I know because I priced them both out and debated if I could justify the extra 10%+ for the gt500. ...
Forum: Engine | Exhaust | Bolt-On | Drivetrain Modifications 06-28-2012, 01:17 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 5,336
Posted By oortcloud
http://www.sunsetorangecreations.com/Exhaust_Comma...

http://www.sunsetorangecreations.com/Exhaust_Commander_Elite.php

I just noticed its made for the vette, so maybe it does not work on the zl1. But it looks like you can set the rpm where it opens,...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 11:55 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
There is a photo of the 1LE at a car show with a...

There is a photo of the 1LE at a car show with a large plaque that lists the mods. One of them is MRC. So maybe it had it at one point.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 11:47 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
Yes, I think the big IF gets ignored by some...

Yes, I think the big IF gets ignored by some here.

Road course the gt500 needs mods to keep up. 1/4 mile the zl1 needs mods to keep up.

And we're back to the endless mod loop equation.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 11:13 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
I'm not talking about subjective stuff. That's...

I'm not talking about subjective stuff. That's part of my point.
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 11:08 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
Man, that's way to much reading. You can spin my...

Man, that's way to much reading. You can spin my "claims" all you want, but that doesn't negate the facts presented by motor trend.

You can't claim checkmate if you didn't win! The gt500 did not...
Forum: Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics 06-28-2012, 10:25 AM
Replies: 750
Views: 82,170
Posted By oortcloud
Well, actually its not my comparison - it's motor...

Well, actually its not my comparison - it's motor trends comparison. All the other mags have pretty much the same options anyway. I'm just stating the costs based on the performance options as...
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