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Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-07-2008, 06:42 PM
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Posted By sbg
For "Camero" and all the others who assert that...

For "Camero" and all the others who assert that the rear bumper of the preproduction was modified from the concept to meet the 5 mph crash test...

Submitted as further evidence against that claim,...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-05-2008, 12:14 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Which Preproduction Picture is Current?

Something else to point out:

The two pictures of the back end of the preproduction are NOT the same! Which one is more recent?!

You'll notice that the most recent pictures to surface with the...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 07:23 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Ahh, my accusation confirmed. :happyanim: ...

Ahh, my accusation confirmed. :happyanim:

You said: "i didn't stop liking them they're still my team thru and thru. as for chevy the same goes."

I couldn't have said it better, you nicely...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 07:11 PM
Replies: 369
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Posted By sbg
I'll only go away when everyone on this site...

I'll only go away when everyone on this site admits that there were changes that are somewhat significant. :wave:
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Replies: 369
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Posted By sbg
Thumbs down :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: See, there are a...

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

See, there are a few reasonable folks around here. By reasonable I mean those who actually look at details on the car and judge whether we like them or not. I know...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
If you didn't notice the rear end, although many...

If you didn't notice the rear end, although many others have, then it proves to me that you will love this car no matter what. They say love is blind. :confused0068:

How is devotion like than...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 03:51 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Thumbs down YES, YES AND YES! :thumbsup: I've made many...

YES, YES AND YES! :thumbsup:

I've made many posts pointing out the same thing. You are 100% correct...the concept which looked mean and wide no longer looks that way in these preproduction...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-04-2008, 03:48 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Thanks for posting a picture of the concept back...

Thanks for posting a picture of the concept back end. It's beautiful!

OK, now look at the back end of the concept and tell me, do you really think the preproduction looks better? :headbang: No...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-02-2008, 12:24 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
To TAG UR IT: You seem to be about the most...

To TAG UR IT:

You seem to be about the most reasonable person on this site. You are simply asking for what everyone should ask for...reasons, not assertions.

Let's agree that for us to ask...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-02-2008, 12:19 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Are you a designer on the camaro? If so, then...

Are you a designer on the camaro? If so, then maybe you could provide some evidence to backup your claims. Here are the ones I still have the most problem with. :mad0259:

"...bumper necessary...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-01-2008, 03:44 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
I have never heard of a state mandating pumped...

I have never heard of a state mandating pumped gas. That's the most absurd thing I've heard...we'll almost.

Seriously, that's crazy. If I had a classic car those bozos wouldn't touch my car. ...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 02-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Thumbs down I'm glad that people are complaining about what...

I'm glad that people are complaining about what they see. If anyone from GM is reading these boards, then it's the only chance to voice your opinion. :mad0259:

I don't get why many of you want...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-31-2008, 11:00 PM
Replies: 369
Views: 51,557
Posted By sbg
Thumbs down Once again, my biggest complaint is the back...

Once again, my biggest complaint is the back bumper and those backup lights. :thumbdown:

The flush, clean concept rear end is so much better. That lower buldge in the bumper is dumb....
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-29-2008, 05:03 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 17,919
Posted By sbg
It looks like the backup lights are still in the...

It looks like the backup lights are still in the bumper. :mad0259: :thumbdown:
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 01-17-2008, 10:23 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 6,171
Posted By sbg
To All: :thumbdown: Reason, logic, and...

To All: :thumbdown:

Reason, logic, and good ole' common sense won't amount to anything with you folks. I'm floored by most of the responses in that they're biased.

Pencil.Fight went to great...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 01-16-2008, 07:14 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 6,171
Posted By sbg
To Pencil.Fight: You said: The difference...

To Pencil.Fight:

You said:
The difference is that we express our views in a constructive and thoughtful manner. Making a list of complaints and getting angry with anyone who disagrees with you...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 01-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 6,171
Posted By sbg
Alright, so there is agreement that the design of...

Alright, so there is agreement that the design of the back was modified, including the tail lights. Some might like it, although most seem to like the concept version better.

I not only like the...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 01-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 6,171
Posted By sbg
OK, so I'm not alone in stating that the rear...

OK, so I'm not alone in stating that the rear end, the light size, depth, etc. has been changed.

But you say "not for the better or worse". Sorry, but come on...the question really is simple, if...
Forum: 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 01-16-2008, 11:19 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 6,171
Posted By sbg
Preproduction Rear Photo Indicates Complete Redesign?

:reposthorse:

OK, I know I'm beating this horse to death, but all you Camaro folks like beating them horses (Mustangs) to death, right? ;)

I wish I could post my pictures here in this thread,...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-14-2008, 04:38 PM
Replies: 259
Views: 43,353
Posted By sbg
OK, I bashed the back end on the other forum, so...

OK, I bashed the back end on the other forum, so I guess I'll do some on the front end...but not as much.

The back end with the backup lights and outset rear end are awful changes.

The front...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-10-2008, 02:15 PM
Replies: 282
Views: 32,348
Posted By sbg
Hey, since I'm on a role, I know what else is...

Hey, since I'm on a role, I know what else is catching my eye...that trunk lid issue.

By making the trunk lid opening larger (which I'll agree was probably necessary) the opening of the trunk lid...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-10-2008, 12:27 PM
Replies: 282
Views: 32,348
Posted By sbg
I'm glad that others have shared my sentiments...

I'm glad that others have shared my sentiments about the the backup lights.

I also noticed that the lower valance for the trumpet exhause looks different. Once again the concept has nice metal...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Replies: 282
Views: 32,348
Posted By sbg
I guess I'd make a lousy designer, because if...

I guess I'd make a lousy designer, because if they asked me to muck with the rear bumper and outset it...I'd find some other internal means of making it pass the 5 mile test, or whatever it is.
...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-09-2008, 07:16 PM
Replies: 282
Views: 32,348
Posted By sbg
Take a look at the Corvette and notice where...

Take a look at the Corvette and notice where those backup lights are....NOT right in the middle of the back bumper. They are nicely integrated into the bottom black portion around the exhaust.
...
Forum: Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 01-09-2008, 06:14 PM
Replies: 282
Views: 32,348
Posted By sbg
Just like they did with the Mustang Concept, they...

Just like they did with the Mustang Concept, they mess up something awesome. I'm a Mustang owner (91 LX 5.0) but this Camaro concept really impressed me at the auto show.

Here's what I noticed...
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