11-05-2009, 12:49 PM
Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SA, Texas
Originally Posted by GaryTucker
I also beg to differ...it isn't what the tech can see at the dealership...it is what GM can see when the dealership is REQUIRED to send the computer upload to them. My guess is that there is alot more going on "behind the scenes" that the techs can't even see.
When you have a powertrain failure...it seems that GM is requiring an upload on nearly every one that happens.
YES THEY ARE.
If GM couldn't see anything more than the techs...they really wouldn't need this as a screenshot printout would suffice.
My goodness, common sense prevails!
You hit the nail on the head!
I think you'd be suprised what the tuners may or may not know. I used to be supportive of the tuners until they started claiming "invisble" tunes and promoting ways for the customer to "go back to stock" as a way to cheat warranty concerns.
If you mod your car's powertrain, including a tune, then you need to accept that your powertrain warranty is void...just that simple.
EXACTLY. You gotta pay to play. If you can't pay for a powertrain failure, WAIT for that warranty to expire! Don't cheat the system....or try to.
As far as a tune making a car run better...not going to hash that out...but think of it this way...then why aren't the tuners offering some type of powertrain warranty.
I know one of the suppliers (supercharger maybe) has a supplemental warranty available for powertrain coverage...I'd think a tuner that has done proper testing (more than just tuning a few cars for more hp) could verify their work to an insurer and get the same type of coverage available.
Yep...and they sure do. They stand behind their work, their parts, their tuning, and offer from 1 year 12k mile to 3 year 36k mile warranties.
I'd also think that the tuners would be willing to assist their customers with what are being deemed "bogus" (by the tuners and their customers) denials of powertrain warranties. If their product could in no way cause a failure, then they should be willing to help defend their own work and name and also to help out their customer.
Yep once again.
And I'll leave it at that.