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Old 10-14-2008, 11:20 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by JMAN311 View Post
So a 300hp V6 isn't "balls to the wall power" but a 300hp mustang V8 for $3K more is?
Uh, the Mustang GT will outperform the V6 Camaro all day long. I'm not a Mustang fan, but people who were expecting their fully loaded V6 to come in at a 24k price and their fully loaded V8s to start at 30k were out of their minds. The car will out perform the Mustang and the Challenger.


It amazes me that someone would say the Camaro needs two different V8 models like the Dodge and Mustang. 1SS 2SS anyone? There's one with the less plush interior that will do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. Then there's one that will ALSO do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds and has leather and a few more options. It's a great deal. You pay for more interior options, but you get the same performance. You get all around better performance than the Mustang, and you can get comparable performance in the Challenger but for 40k as opposed to 32 or so.

The Mustang offers a V8 with 300hp that will do 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and for 32k it'll have leather and everything you want. For 3k more you'll get the better suspension and chassis of the Camaro with leather as well. Not to mention another 122hp. That's not unreasonable if you ask me.


People who are saying this pricing is too high and that GM screwed everything up by pricing it so high and that Ford and Dodge did it right are out of their freaking minds. Or maybe they're just butthurt because they hoped for the Camaro to be 28k fully loaded. Idiots.

The Dodge for example: You can get a R/T that comes stripped down, does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds or so and a mid 13 second 1/4 mile for 30k. With options that price can skyrocket to 39k and that price comes with no extra performance. You can get the SRT-8 model which starts at 40k and comes well equipped. For a few grand more you can get all options. The Camaro will be faster and better made than either of those and be cheaper in a performance per dollar aspect as well as performance per luxury aspect too.

^Is that a good deal?

The Camaro will be 35-36k very well equipped. Better deal than the Dodge.

V8 Camaro with great engine, brakes and suspension: 31k

V8 Mustang with lesser engine, brakes and suspension: 29k

V8 Challenger with lesser engine, brakes and suspension: 30k

Camaro with Leather and previously mentioned performance:35k

Mustang comparably equipped: 32-33k

Challenger comparably equipped 40k (!!!)

breaking it down like that should put it in perspective for a lot of people.

The Camaro is the best deal period. It's unfortunate that not everyone can afford it, but that's the way things are. People will always look to spend as little as possible.

And whoever said a Muscle car by definition has a eye-catching interior hasn't seen the last gen mustang and camaro. That's never been a Muscle Cars strongsuit. It's only been a few years since the Mustang has had an even tolerable interior and it obviously sets the bar since it's the first example in the class.
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