I saw Caverman get kind of high up, but I don't think they want you all the way at the top.
The only ones that have to wear helmets are people on motorcycles. People in cars have to buckle up.
Check out the thread and see Unknown Warrior's vid. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...=126117&page=5
Psssst, don't let the screen name fool you, I'm a older woman