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Old 11-24-2011, 03:23 AM   #68
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Which is why I'm trying to find the differences so I can weigh my options . I'm not asking them to divulge trade secrets , but I would think asking for specs is a fair question. Is it too much to ask for the differences with each brand ? Regardless of whether or not they are made in the same place . I'm not trying to start a brand war (as I've said earlier in this thread)
At Pedders, we let the performance of our products speak for themselves. Allow me to explain. Many of the vehicles on display at SEMA are not road worthy let alone track worthy. Every car Pedders has displayed at SEMA was track ready. In 2009 we took our SEMA Camaro directly to the OPTIMA Challenge. Every major suspension company was in attendance. The Pedders Camaro was the fastest 5th Gen on track and posted the third fastest time on the road course. It was over 7 seconds faster than the next fastest 5th Gen. In 2010 we ran the OPTIMA Challenge again. This time we were 8.5 seconds faster than the next fastest 5th Gen.

Lingenfelter's Black Pig Camaro was running on brand-x coilovers. We bolted on a set of Pedders Supercars and the car gained 2/10s of a second. We worked for months with LPE and developed a Lingenfelter Drag Coilover system that tested to be 3/10s of a second faster in the 60' than the brand-x coilovers we replaced.

For the last two years, every on track Camaro Pace car you saw on the INDY and NASCAR circuits was on Pedders GMPP parts. I assisted in the installations at the Milford Proving Grounds. Jay Leno's Turbo Camaro, Dale Jr's and many more are all on Pedders. I have a deal with GM. I buy GM cars and GM buys Pedders Parts. At SEMA this year there were 24 cars in the Chevrolet booth. 17 were on Pedders.

GM is a good customer. They owe Pedders nothing because they pay for our product, yet they graciously gave us credit in their press releases and in their SEMA brochures.

Camaro SEMA Brochure http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/...20Brochure.pdf

Cruze SEMA Card http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/...20Brochure.pdf

Sonic SEMA Brochure http://www.silverbulletpartners.com/...20Brochure.pdf

Our test sessions on track have been covered by multiple magazines and verify the performance of our cars. We use highly skilled high profile drivers like Paul Tracy along with less famous but extremely competent suspension engineers that happen to drive race cars. We publish our track data and provide detailed information to the Camaro community so they can use it on their own vehicles.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ht=pedders+305

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...gen+suspension

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ders+gingerman

Our CTS-V / ZL1 Brake conversion thread is a prime example of how Pedders takes our research and development directly to the C5 Community. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...+brake+Pedders

On our website we detail the how and why of everything we do to make a 5th Gen perform.

http://www.peddersusa.com/products/21

We provide details that are not available from any other manufacturer.

http://www.peddersusa.com/products/21/177

http://www.peddersusa.com/products/21/215

If you clicked through the links and watched the videos you know what the Pedders difference is. How we manufacture and how we engineer is nobody's business. We don't share, we compete because that is what our customers do. We are a premium brand with premium product and premium customer service. Our parts come at a premium price and deliver premium performance that our clients define as value.

We don't talk about it what we might do, would like to do or think we can do. We prove what we can do and post the data. We go to the OPTIMA Challenge with one goal in mind -- do it better and faster than the other suspension companies. If and when they beat us, they can tell you they did and how much better they are. The fact is they haven't come close to us at the Challenge so they should stop talking. The Challenge is a National Televised Event. It isn't parking lots and cones. It is THE place to put up or shut up. Your question shouldn't be what is the difference in how Pedders manufactures, you should be asking brand-x why they can't beat Pedders and where is their data.

If you can find a suspension company that offers the level of detailed technical information Pedders has posted in this forum or on their websites or one that provides greater support to the Camaro community you should buy from them.
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