Originally Posted by usmcjlp
It is getting harder and harder to support GM. First their management runs the company into the ground. They take tons of taxpayer money, which will never be repaid. GM takes 3 years to get this car to market and apparently it has so many design flaws that every week we hear of a new major issue. Yes I consider L99s with no power and transmission shafts shearing under normal driving conditions a major flaw. I drive 2 American cars because that's what I prefer. But really, when was the last time you heard of Honda launching a new vehicle with these issues?
Not to mention, the UAW works a back room deal with the white house for salaries and benefits that far exceeds the market average. Obviously, that doesn't translate into better quality. Before I get flamed here, loose nuts on spoilers, A pillars not installed properly, and major paint issues are all indications of poor workmanship. GM's design has nothing to do with failing to adequately tighten 4 nuts on the spoiler. That is a half ass work ethic and nothing else.
I am a system engineer. I currently work on procurement and development of aviation platforms. I have designed and written test and evaluation protocols for new systems. As someone who is very familiar with writing requirements and their associated tolerances, I am amazed at what I see slipping through GM's process. GM has got to know they are under a microscope. I personally want to see the American Auto industry come back. This is not helping.
That’s because Honda would not allow the information to leak out what you see here is unprecedented amount of information for a new car because so many people here have ties to the inside info. If you come to this site for better or worse you have information overload so why don't you go back to the Honda forum and be happy with all 6 people on there even if you don't own a Honda. If you’d like to stay stop the whole the world is ending and GM is crap stuff. All new cars have problems, btw I'll keep my crapy camaro and its good cv joints any day over a honda. How long have they been making cars and they still can't get that right?
Anyhow I've owned a Honda and like them but no car is perfect.
As far as the UAW God knows I'm no fan but the deal they worked out was the percentage of ownership in the company goes into a fund to pay for their health benefits that offsets the cost to the company and on average they took 20% paycut if not more.
Your probably a fan of Fox news so am I but don't I beleive every word Fox news says offcourse not I've seen the twist the truth to make their point more appealing. By far they are not as bad as CNN going the other way but if your going to say something at least research the information before saying it is fact.