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Old 01-04-2010, 12:10 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Damian View Post
HPtuners and EFI also come with full blown tutorials for new tuners in their software, as well as a mountain of information on their forums. As for price, there's a reason for that. They can do 1000 things the hand helds can't do. I've retuned cars with hand helds for years and never once found one that can stack up to a real tune.
Everyone knows that the ability to control more things is good for SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEIR DOING. Without any knowledge of tuning whatsoever, do you really expect this guy to go to town on his $37k+ car? You didn't factor in the cost of dyno time or the fact that you need a laptop to go with it as well. The handhelds are perfectly fine for vast majority of people. Ted and many other shops have done enough tuning on these cars that they can write you up a tune based on your mods and get it damn close. If you're in the area, he can give you the full treatment via the dyno and plug it into your handheld.


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Raising shift firmness blindly can cause premature transmission wear. It "feels" cool, but maxing out line pressure isn't always the best for the trans. In a real tuning software, line pressure can be adjusted for each shift, in each gear.

Hypertechs are a waste of money, plain and simple.
And you think the guys at Hypertech are stupid? You think they blindly plug numbers into their programers then send them out? Do they tune you to the bleeding edge, absolutely not. Do they give you a SAFE tune that won't blow your engine up under any circumstances, absolutely. I happen to know the lead tuner at HT and can tell you that he's tuned more cars, trucks, turbo cars, and turbo diesels than you can imagine. They have a massive shop in Memphis with multiple dyno's with all the bells and whistles to take it the bleeding edge and back to see what's available and what's safe. Most shops with EXPERIENCED tuners can find HP behind the handhelds tunes, provided they aren't made from one of the shops. Not everyone is a track junky that needs every last HP available. The vast majority of people just want their car tuned to accept the mods they have done and clean up the stock tune. Easy install, no fuss, no CEL's, plug and go, better driving experience. For those that want to maximize everything to the edge, HPT and EFI live are better options.
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