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Old 04-08-2013, 12:46 PM   #89
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Originally Posted by ALLTRBO View Post
Just how stripped down is the 2014 Z/28? Let's break it down.
It has (or most likely will- if not confirmed), in no particular order...


-power steering (variable assist electric)—necessary for cars these days, find me one without it
-power brakes—necessary for reliability
-power mirrors
-ABS—necessary for reliability and safety
-power windows (express up/down)—this or fixed windows, manual would require engineering a crank on a single model which may cost more
-power locks—would be marginal weight reduction
-power trunk—would be marginal weight reduction
-keyless entry w/panic alarm—your key fob doesn't count into the car's weight
-tilt steering—does not add weight
-telescoping steering—does not add weight
-cruise control—does not add weight
-4 seats—all Camaros have 4 seats
-6 airbags—necessary for safety
-2 cupholders—possibly the most unreasonable thing to remove on this entire list, does not add weight
-12V power outlet—would be marginal weight reduction
-stability/traction control (if you're silly enough to keep them on in this car)
-radio with CD/MP3 player, AM/FM, XM, auto-volume, 6-page preset menu, 3-band EQ, 10-minute on-after-key-off feature, anti-theft, and one decent speaker—not standard equipment, may not be available at all, should not be on this list
-steering wheel mounted controls—not confirmed, would be marginal weight reduction
-configurable lock/unlock and horn/light settings—does not add weight
-automatic headlights—does not add weight
-2 trip odometers—does not add weight
-compass—does not add weight
-exterior temp gauge—would be marginal weight reduction
-average mileage/speed displays—does not add weight
-message center—does not add weight
-delayed courtesy light—would be marginal weight reduction to remove all lights
-heater/defroster
-rear defroster—same feature as above, redundant
-air conditioning (if you want it)—optional, and as such should not be on this list
-cabin air filter—would be marginal weight reduction
-huge trunk (albeit with a comically small opening)—now you're just trolling, the trunk is a cavity in the car
-glove box (lockable)—would be marginal weight reduction
-door panel storagestill trolling, those are cavities and therefore do not add weight
-center arm rest/storage—would be marginal weight reduction
-console front storage tray—would be marginal weight reduction
-alarm
-auto-dimming rear view mirror—not confirmed, would be marginal weight reduction
-variable intermittent wipers—try driving in the rain without them
-windshield washer
-OnStar with lock-out protection, turn-by-turn, theft tracking, and emergency response
-a full GM warranty—that's just trolling, does not add weight
-and a partridge in a pear tree—ah sarcasm

There may or may not be a couple things I forgot.


Some of you sissies need to quit whining, this thing does everything but wash the dishes for you.
Just my not-quite-humble opinion.


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Please review rebuttals in red. If you removed all the "marginal weight" statements, the total would be less than 10 pounds, which most drivers could probably find at the gym. Most of the "do not add weight" features have to do with the dash assembly, driver information center, or other integral parts of the car.

A few points did not get red text. I didn't respond to those because I can see removing those.

As for most of the other complaints, we're just feeding the troll by arguing.
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