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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer21
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You are an enthusiast that was lucky enough to be able to see the development of Camaro and rub elbows with the big shots. You of all would not dare to ever say anything negative about the Camaro or you would be history. You can make suggestions but you can't ever say anything after the fact or you would never be invited back.
I don't have that problem. I don't have to worry about what I say and can give an honest opinion if I don't like something. You can't. I totally understand now. That is ok...I see where you are coming from. I would bite my tongue to if I were in your shoes so I could continue to see the car I love go through it's design phases and get invited to the big show.
Thank you. Now that I know the real story I feel better.
Sales will tell if they did good. I will hold my 2013 until the next change.
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Sorry -- been tied up and have not been able to read thru this thread -- but wanted to respond when I can.
Yup -- watched Lopez myself and you are right.
On the other hand - no - I'm not quiet and I'm outspoken and I have been outspoken at GM for 36 years.
Did it affect promotions? I'm sure it probably did at one time or another.......that's human nature and it happens in most, if not all big companies.
A 'lil story:
One day in 2001 I was driving to the office very early in the morning - (I even remember the car - a Bright Rally Red Camaro SS - )
......and WWJ radio suddenly was reporting that Bob Lutz was coming back to General Motors. (he'd worked for GM for a time in the early 60s...)
I'm not kidding - I very nearly pulled off the road and did backflips!
I think he's a genius. I don't agree with everything he says, but in the grand scheme of the Automobile Industry? I'd put him in the top ten people of all time..........
A week later I sent him an email along the lines of:
"...DELIGHTED that you're back at GM -- and I can hardly wait to see what you have in mind....... "
......yada yada yada..............
".......and I hope I'll never again have to apologize for the passion I have for our products.........."
Fast forward to three weeks later:
I'm in a hotel room in Las Vegas at a Press event - it's like 1am (4am Detroit time) - and I hear a 'bing!' as another email hits my inbox.......
Hmmmmm......wonder who that migh-----...BOB LUTZ!!!!! WHOA!....
The note was pure Bob........
...".....been a bit busy getting settled with Product Planning and Engineering.........wanted to get back to you..".
...yada yada yada........
"........don't you ever apologize for Passion....because without passion, we cannot have the greatest products and without the greatest products we cannot win..........
and I don't plan on losing!.."
That's what I loved about him......passion - AND....the ability to listen to those of us who are (as Peter DeLorenzo calls us) "The True Believers"......far down the ladder, so to speak.........
Perhaps I was lucky - I got "invited back" over the years......I also made some enemies, but on the other hand, I wasn't running for Mayor.
...and it also helped that I didn't have children that I had to worry about sending to college......
Anyway - glad you're here - and I hope you'll see the car in person and perhaps that it'll grow on you!
