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It really is all subjective. I had the borla atak catback first, just that and it was loud but not the loud that I wanted. I got a pair of high flow cats and it made the car perfect to me. Its LOUD. Start up in a garage is nuts lol, I have to really be careful to keep it low late at night. It doesnt sound too raspy to me, just really aggressive. High flow cats really put it where it needed to be though
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