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Originally Posted by shaffe

FWIW, and I don't put much into this bc different days, different drivers ( but a hand full of cars driven by Randy) here is a list of recorded lap times at streets of willow. The 15 PP is faster than these current cars. I jsut quickly glanced over this list and kept the cars within 2 model years of the 15 PP. I am not defending the comments made by Ford, just putting this up here for conversation and reference.

17. Ford Mustang GT Performance Pack 1:24.32 '15 426 / 1650 Randy Pobst
18. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 1:24.55 '14 461 / 1577 EdMunds InsideLine
19. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 1:24.60 '14 461 / 1577
20. Mercedes CLS 63 AMG S-Model 1:24.70 '13 585 / 1870
21. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S 1:24.85 '13 573 / 1665 Randy Pobst .
25. Chevrolet SS 1:25.71 '14 421 / 1800 Randy Probst
26. Ford Mustang GT 5.0 1:25.77 '12 426 / 1641 Randy Pobst .
28. Subaru WRX STI 1:26.12 '14 309 / 1545 Randy Pobst
29. Mercedes CLA 45 AMG 1:26.20 '13 360 / 1395 Randy Pobst
30. BMW M235i 1:26.37 '14 326 / 1455 Randy Pobst
31. Jaguar XFR-S 1:26.49 '13 550 / 1987 Randy Pobst
33. Porsche Cayman S 1:27.00 '13 325 / 1320

I would have loved Randy to take the 15 PP around Laguna Seca, bc there are alot more cars that, recent ones, driven by Randy that we could compare to.

Great work numbers don't lie, It is a very good car and I cant wait to see it put on more tracks for more comparisons, short technical tracks, long fast tracks, to see where its weaknesses and strengths are. Also with different drivers to see how easy it is to get the most out off, Some cars need a professional to handle them others can reach 95% percent of their potential in the hands of mere mortals.