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Old 04-18-2013, 09:35 PM   #122
orthojoe
 
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Originally Posted by Sweet Zness View Post
The discussion I am trying to have is that if this is a track superstar Camaro that is specifically built for racing warriors. Then its silly to only be able to use it in a friendly track day setting. Just for shits and giggles.
OK. It's painfully obvious you don't attend track days. How is building/selling a car for track days silly? Those of us that track as a hobby find a production car aimed for us specifically very appealing and refreshing. Yes, it's for shits and giggles. It's a track TOY. Why would you want to make a TOY practical? NOTHING about the car is practical. That's what a Camry is for.

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Its like we are saying "Hey look, we took out the carpet, left one speaker, put these massive breaks on it so the less than one half of one percent of the worlds population would be ok to race it in a friendly only setting"
1) it's spelled BRAKES not break
2) less than 0.5% of the world's population is a HUGE number of Camaros in general to sell. That's about 35 million cars.

Yes. This car is aimed for a very small segment of buyers. Very small. Very niche. If you are complaining about the car, it wasn't meant for you. It's a tough pill to swallow for some. What is wrong with the ZL1? You just don't like the badge?

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Tell me if you believe they couldn't save 300 lbs elsewhere through materials, or parts that wouldn't compromise it as a daily? If your answer is yes, then they should of gone this route, cut off the ceramics priced it just a hair above the ZL1 and sold a lot more of them to Camaro Enthusiasts.
1) Perhaps to Camaro enthusiasts that want to pretend they are 'hardcore', but not track day enthusiasts, which is who the Z/28 was built for.
2) We don't know what the Z/28 will be priced at. I personally think it will cost more than the ZL1, but not by a lot, which is what you are asking for.
3) You seem fixated on the ceramics. With a car that weighs 3800 pounds, brake fade/overheat is going to be a problem IF YOU TRACK THE CAR, and the ceramics are the solution to that problem.
4) The concept of removing A/C and stereo on a track/enthusiast focused car is not new:
The original Subaru STi: had no speakers or stereo.
Porsche Boxster Spyder and Cayman R: no radio, no A/C
Porsche GT3RS: A/C delete and radio delete available

All the people whining about the Z/28 have no intention of ever tracking the car and want it as a daily driver. You're whining because it's the wrong car for YOU.
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