A note about trim levels - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stovt001 · 08-22-2008, 10:28 PM

I don't know if this is bothering anyone else, but it is rubbing me wrong. "RS" is not synonymous with V6. There are two V6 trims: LS and LT. As of now there is one V8 trim: SS (divided into 1SS and 2SS, along with 1LT and 2LT). RS is an OPTION PACKAGE. It is not a trim level. It is an option on both V6 and V8 models. For example, I have a Cobalt LS that includes the ABS and TC combination. My car is called the Cobalt LS, not Cobalt ABS/TC. This may seem petty, but I felt it needed to be clarified. There is no RS bumper. There is only the V6 and SS bumpers, and possibly the TF2 Bumblebee bumper on a future Z28.

Silverghost · 08-22-2008, 10:41 PM

RS goes back to 67, it only became synonymous with the V6 in the 4th gen.

In 1967 the RS (Rally Sport) package was basically a cosmetic upgrade. The headlights were hidden, the taillights received minor alterations, and the exterior rocker trim was revised. RS badging could be seen throughout the vehicle.
The RS and SS packages could be ordered together, creating the RS/SS Camaro. The combination included both the aesthetics of the RS and the performance of the SS.

stovt001 · 08-22-2008, 10:48 PM

Exactly what I'm saying. I could see if throughout Camaro history the V6 trims had been called "RS", but that was only briefly the case. Given how closely the 5th gen RS package mirrors the 1st gen package it seems clear that it is an appearance option kit, not a trim.

*CamaroSpike23* · 08-23-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by stovt001

Exactly what I'm saying. I could see if throughout Camaro history the V6 trims had been called "RS", but that was only briefly the case. Given how closely the 5th gen RS package mirrors the 1st gen package it seems clear that it is an appearance option kit, not a trim.

the RS has always been an appearance package. and 90% of the time, V-6 owners wanted a lil something else besides the bottom line car. and since the V-8 people were spending their money on the V-8 power/suspension options, they didnt care too much about the looks and were more interested in mo powa!
this is a generalized outlook i know, but you dont see too many numbers matching V-8 RS' out there.

one thing to keep in mind also, some people refer to any major option upgrade as a trim level upgrade.

TheCaptain · 08-23-2008, 12:10 PM

That, and it doesn't help Road & Track magazine screwed up and said the same thing about a V6 RS model, and the V8 SS model. And nothing about LS or LT models... Ugh, idiots are everywhere!

*radz28* · 08-23-2008, 12:18 PM

The rags' will never get it right. I'm waiting for good magazines like GMHTP, CHP, HR, or PHR to get their hands on V6 and V8 models. I want to see some real performance numbers.

TheCaptain · 08-23-2008, 12:21 PM

Real solid statistics, not like (i think it was R&T) that did a totally Computer Generated test about a year ago, involving the Camaro and Mustang. With what parts they figured would be in it. Real useful information there...

*radz28* · 08-23-2008, 12:29 PM

LOL; you're right. HOWEVER, they were still on my good side because Camaro still won, LOL!!!

TheCaptain · 08-23-2008, 01:51 PM

Yea, truth be told!

EllwynX · 08-23-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverghost

RS goes back to 67, it only became synonymous with the V6 in the 4th gen.

Actually, that would have been the 3rd Gen that started it.

In 91 and 92 the base Camaro was an RS.

Silverghost · 08-23-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EllwynX

Actually, that would have been the 3rd Gen that started it.

In 91 and 92 the base Camaro was an RS.

I stand corrected, thank you, I forgot about that.

BADENUF · 08-23-2008, 11:39 PM

Actually, the third generation RS models started in 1987 offered only in California, had a V6. Then in 1988, the V6 RS was made in Cali, Texas and Florida. In 89+ third gens offered a V8 and a V6 RS models.

*DGthe3* · 08-25-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCaptain

Real solid statistics, not like (i think it was R&T) that did a totally Computer Generated test about a year ago, involving the Camaro and Mustang. With what parts they figured would be in it. Real useful information there...

not that it matters, but I believe it was motor trend

BowtieGuy · 08-25-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

not that it matters, but I believe it was motor trend

It was, and let the record show that the Camaro dominated in EVERY category. Even a ZL1 they thought up to compete with the GT500.

08-22-2008, 10:28 PM	#1
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	A note about trim levels I don't know if this is bothering anyone else, but it is rubbing me wrong. "RS" is not synonymous with V6. There are two V6 trims: LS and LT. As of now there is one V8 trim: SS (divided into 1SS and 2SS, along with 1LT and 2LT). RS is an OPTION PACKAGE. It is not a trim level. It is an option on both V6 and V8 models. For example, I have a Cobalt LS that includes the ABS and TC combination. My car is called the Cobalt LS, not Cobalt ABS/TC. This may seem petty, but I felt it needed to be clarified. There is no RS bumper. There is only the V6 and SS bumpers, and possibly the TF2 Bumblebee bumper on a future Z28. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-22-2008, 10:41 PM	#2
Silverghost Drives: Z28 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 533	RS goes back to 67, it only became synonymous with the V6 in the 4th gen. In 1967 the RS (Rally Sport) package was basically a cosmetic upgrade. The headlights were hidden, the taillights received minor alterations, and the exterior rocker trim was revised. RS badging could be seen throughout the vehicle. The RS and SS packages could be ordered together, creating the RS/SS Camaro. The combination included both the aesthetics of the RS and the performance of the SS. __________________ Speed Kills - Drive a Ford and live forever! www.rivercityperformance.com

08-22-2008, 10:48 PM	#3
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Exactly what I'm saying. I could see if throughout Camaro history the V6 trims had been called "RS", but that was only briefly the case. Given how closely the 5th gen RS package mirrors the 1st gen package it seems clear that it is an appearance option kit, not a trim. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-23-2008, 12:10 PM	#5
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	That, and it doesn't help Road & Track magazine screwed up and said the same thing about a V6 RS model, and the V8 SS model. And nothing about LS or LT models... Ugh, idiots are everywhere! __________________

08-23-2008, 12:18 PM	#6
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,230 View My Garage	The rags' will never get it right. I'm waiting for good magazines like GMHTP, CHP, HR, or PHR to get their hands on V6 and V8 models. I want to see some real performance numbers. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-23-2008, 12:21 PM	#7
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	Real solid statistics, not like (i think it was R&T) that did a totally Computer Generated test about a year ago, involving the Camaro and Mustang. With what parts they figured would be in it. Real useful information there... __________________

08-23-2008, 12:29 PM	#8
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,230 View My Garage	LOL; you're right. HOWEVER, they were still on my good side because Camaro still won, LOL!!! __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-23-2008, 01:51 PM	#9
TheCaptain N7 Spectre Drives: 14 ATS Performance 3.6L AWD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moosomin, Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 2,734 View My Garage	Yea, truth be told! __________________

08-23-2008, 11:39 PM	#12
BADENUF Drives: 1990 Chevy Camaro RS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: utah Posts: 8 View My Garage	Actually, the third generation RS models started in 1987 offered only in California, had a V6. Then in 1988, the V6 RS was made in Cali, Texas and Florida. In 89+ third gens offered a V8 and a V6 RS models.

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