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Old 10-16-2017, 08:35 AM   #29
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Question. You said the fluid was fresh at the beginning of the season. Like, you ran multiple events without bleeding the brakes?

At a minimum, you should bleed your brakes and check your pads before every event. Even with SRF, I would bleed them slightly to make sure there's no air
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:30 AM   #30
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Like mentioned, thin pads will kill the caliper seals. Doesn't matter if you have the best fluid on earth if the caliper seals melt, done. If the powder coating shows signs of melting, the seals are probably also melted.

I'd rebuild the calipers with new seals. Add quantum ducts. Use Castrol SRF. I'd use OE Brembo pads, nothing wrong with them. If you go crazy aggressive on the pad, will really need to upgrade to a full race caliper. The race calipers are generally not powdercoated and no dust seals. The dust boots and powder coating can't handle race brake temps.
I had an Accident on the street 3 months ago because my Pads were too thin, the seals melted and the Piston got stuck locking up the Brakes. I should have known better
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Old 12-24-2017, 12:14 PM   #31
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Good wake up call for me in this. How do guys bleed your brakes, any advice on tools, videos?

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Old 12-24-2017, 12:50 PM   #32
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Good wake up call for me in this. How do guys bleed your brakes, any advice on tools, videos?

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If you have an air compressor then I have a mityvac 6835 which I love. So much easier than trying to do it with 2 people.
http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_bcbe.asp
If no compressor then something like the MV8020 works well.

I suction out the reservoir paying attention to not draw the level below any openings so you don't introduce air. Then I bleed each wheel. After that I pump the clutch 30 times and then suck out the reservoir again. That gets the fluid in your clutch hydraulics swapped. If you ever drop the transmission then throw a speed bleeder on it and you will waste less fluid but the stock bleeder is in a horrific location. It takes roughly 1L of fluid but I prefer to have 1.5L on hand just in case. Especially if you have air in the system it may take longer. If you are putting a new caliper on then I bleed/burb them before ever putting it on the car. Makes it much simpler and faster.
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Old 12-24-2017, 06:48 PM   #33
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Did the clutch breaking support pack it and in and take out the brakes? I had that happen, but I have a separate reservoir for the clutch so I did not loose my brakes at 130 MPH on the front straight of the Ridge.

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Old 12-26-2017, 11:46 AM   #34
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Ouch. Could have been worse, glad it turned out as well as it did.
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Old 12-26-2017, 03:04 PM   #35
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this is getting interesting, I'm in
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Old 12-27-2017, 10:59 PM   #36
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Finally an update!

Got a chance to get under the car and see the extent of the damage. Exhaust pipes have a few dings in them and the plastic pieces on the underside are a bit scraped up but not horrible. The front passenger wheel took a beating and looked like it was sand blasted on the inside of the rim. The front passenger caliper also had the same sand blasted look as well. Basically just all cosmetic stuff. One concern is the passenger side caliper does a ding in the pipe that connects each side of the caliper together with fluid. Still works just don't like it! I am going to see if I can get that little pipe fixed. Also I took the car in for an alignment and the front passenger wheel is out of round. Like I said it took a beating. The pads were pretty worn and the disks have surface heat fractures.

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I pushed new fluid through the lines and put on the new pads. Went to the track and the car seemed solid. I did not push it however. I don't have the same confidence in the brakes and it was more of a shake down run than anything. Fastest lap was a 1:36 that day and my fastest ever is a 1:34. Only ran a 1:36 twice. Most were just pleasure laps.

I was able to get the front wheels re-powder coated and and the front passenger side back to round. So that was a relief. Car is sitting dormant for now until spring when I can push Castrol SRF through the lines and get back out.

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Old 12-27-2017, 11:28 PM   #37
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Good deal, glad you are ok
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:53 PM   #38
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In the pics -Iím assuming thatís a new pad compared to the old pad, not inner vs outer?

Not much left on that pad nonetheless. Iím new to tracking and set a limit that 6mm is the absolute limit Iím gonna hit the track with. In fairness I have the 4 piston SS setup on my 1LE with wheel well ducts, and I bleed before every session with Motul 600 - and while I have her apart I measure pads and rotors. Iím more focused on stopping safely than getting going obviously, but your video is exactly the reason why and I thought it was overkill for a track rookie but Iím gonna stick with my program after seeing this.

Glad youíre ok and the car is relatively unscathed. If the pedal gets soft - sheís talking to you. Bad news doesnít get better with time.
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Old 01-01-2018, 05:42 PM   #39
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In the pics -Iím assuming thatís a new pad compared to the old pad, not inner vs outer?

Not much left on that pad nonetheless. Iím new to tracking and set a limit that 6mm is the absolute limit Iím gonna hit the track with. In fairness I have the 4 piston SS setup on my 1LE with wheel well ducts, and I bleed before every session with Motul 600 - and while I have her apart I measure pads and rotors. Iím more focused on stopping safely than getting going obviously, but your video is exactly the reason why and I thought it was overkill for a track rookie but Iím gonna stick with my program after seeing this.

Glad youíre ok and the car is relatively unscathed. If the pedal gets soft - sheís talking to you. Bad news doesnít get better with time.
That's correct new vs old. You are doing the right thing! Keep it up and don't do what I did. Yes she was talking to me and I didn't listen. I paid the price and was extremely lucky that's all that happened. Big eye opener. These cars are great but use caution and smarts. The alternative is not worth it.
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