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Old 07-24-2008, 12:08 PM   #273
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Electronic Stability Control will be mandatory 2012 Government Regs.
The 2008 Mustang has this option. also it comes with the option of side curtain air bags as well.
Well, they're NOT going to install those heavy options on the car when they weigh it if they're optional. You're comparing it to a car which has all those items as standard and therefore it's going to weigh more. When they become standard equipment on the Mustang I bet the weight will go up.

You are correct about the engine and the roof... but the SS has an aluminum hood too.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:25 PM   #274
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If you pick up the latest Motortrend Magazine, it is estimated to run from: $22,000 - $33,000.
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:03 PM   #275
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I'm hoping that the 2010 Camaro will be significantly faster than the 2010 Mustang GT. Just like the 2002 Z28 compared to the 2002 Mustang GT. Anything less will result in me waiting for the 'top dawg' Camaro - whatever it's called.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:46 PM   #276
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First allow me to help you with your grammer. "That don't make sense" should be "that doesn't make sense. Now to reply to your comment: Light, an antonym would be “darkness”, an adjective would be “subtle” or “pale”.
Bright, an antonym would be “dark”, an adjective would be “sunlit” or “vivid”,
Non-color- This I may have to take back because if something lacks color or if it is of non-color than it has no interest or vividness. I think if someone was to say that the Camaro lacked interest or vividness we would have to tak’em’out. However, black, gray and white are considered “lacking a manifestation of color”. Thanks for keeping up!
If you are going to correct someone's "grammer", you should at least know how to spell it. It's grammar.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:55 PM   #277
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If you are going to correct someone's "grammer", you should at least know how to spell it. It's grammar.
I can't type very fast but you made me laugh since I saw it after I posted it.

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:02 PM   #278
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The news article was from Edmunds, the performance numbers were from
Al Oppenheiser, chief engineer for GM's North American rear-wheel-drive platform.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=129496
GM's quoted performance for a 1998 LS1 Camaro was 13.9 in the quarter. What does that tell you? Performance estimates from the manufacturer are always conservative.

Just wait until the cars hit the street, and if 13.3 is the best they can do then I'll eat my hat. Stock fourth-gens can hit 13.3 and the 2010 will have a noticably better power to weight ratio.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:26 PM   #279
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White is the combination of All Colors
Black is the combination of All Pigments
Pigments absorb light and reflect a portion of the spectrum. this portion translates into what we see as "Color"
The more the pigment absorbs the darker the "color" we see.
Very white paint absorbs very little light so reflects as white and bright.
Black paint the opposite (which is why to me a smooth black finish is sooo cool, like looking into an osidian mirror - err too much?)

skipping past..

In addition to the spectum of light that is absobed/reflected there is also the luminosity or how much of it is reflected.
Again Bright white reflects alot of light black little. Grey absorbs alot of the spectrum but has higher luminosity.
Richer Color paints tend to darker because of how much and what they absorb to create the deeper colors we see.
(My physics of light is a bit simplistic, its been a reallly long time since I had this crap)

Also it depends on what you have in mind when you think of a color in the same family.

To some Navy blue is Blue to others its Robin's egg. both would consider Midnight dark and Sky light, but the one thinking of Robin's egg might see slate blue as dark where the guy thinking of Navy would say light.
It's very much subjective.

A MUCH more technical version of my explanation. LOL I admit you're the first person I've ever met that knew about this. Most people just look at me like I'm nuts. haha
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:32 PM   #280
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I'm hoping that the 2010 Camaro will be significantly faster than the 2010 Mustang GT. Just like the 2002 Z28 compared to the 2002 Mustang GT. Anything less will result in me waiting for the 'top dawg' Camaro - whatever it's called.
the Camaro and Mustang has always played leap from, and more recent the Camaro has been faster., if the 2010 Mustang stays around 3500-3600 pounds and gets the 365 hp 5.0 then I see them neck and neck. but right now chevy is pitting the SS against the 2009 Challenger as it's compatition, they are simular in weight, hp and looks, and I beleive in price (camaro will be cheaper 33-35k) the mustang wil still come in below 30K
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:15 AM   #281
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we all know the Maro will cost much more than the Stang exactly how much we will find out soon , now as to the weight issue ,imagine driving a Maro with 2 extra passangers in there each weighing 200 pounds , That is the HANDICAP the Maro has to deal with vs the Stang. Not just for acceleration but also for cornering and braking a lot of people don't realize that extra weight affects you in a lot of different ways performance wise...
Doesn't anybody remember the concept Mustang? Ford's goin to redo the Mustang to match there previous concept cause Chevy's is very close to what they promised and their horse power will jump up to about the 400 make by 2010 to match the Camaro's. So as for price, weight, & option I beleave it be close come 2010 Mustang vs Camaro specs.
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:20 AM   #282
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Calm down - the labels don't show up anywhere on a car.......

and if that's all it takes to make you want to buy a Mustang.........I'm very concerned for your well-being!
Wait until he finds out that it really does not turn into a robot, he'll hang himself....
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:03 AM   #283
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I was really hoping to have some kind of interior color information along with the exterior color choices. Will they initially just offer Black (Ebony) only?
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:52 AM   #284
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The Mustang has always been about cheep speed. When price falls, so does quality. Plain and simple. When comparing these cars you have to keep that in mind. Everyone who is upset about the potentially high price of the Camaro has to remember that based on what we’ve seen this is definitely not going to be a car of poor quality. Fully independent suspension, nearly 300hp’s worth of a V6, well over 400hp’s worth of a V8, huge wheels brakes and tires, all the standard safety features, and has anyone checked out the lines on this car? This must be expensive to manufacture. I’m not counting on this car to be inexpensive, however check out everything that comes standard. The GT500 doesn’t even have independent rear suspension. Even if the GT500 (which I'd like to add is a $43k plus car) is faster than an SS in the quarter mile, you can bet your ass the Camaro will be faster on the track. Need not compair the GT.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:57 AM   #285
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Everyone should just be happy the Camaro won't be as heavy as the Challenger.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:36 PM   #286
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man, there's so much I could say in this thread, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut... discretion is the better part of valor.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:17 PM   #287
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man, there's so much I could say in this thread, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut... discretion is the better part of valor.
I'm not sure what you mean. GM told us the weight of the Camaro, end of story, right?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:41 PM   #288
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guys wut u guys gettin mad over its the first year there comin out with something let gm knock out the kinks u never kno they might change it around it the first year camaro coming bak soo hold ur horses

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Old 07-25-2008, 10:02 PM   #289
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But the RS trim level (available for both V6 and SS cars) does include HID headlamps with a sassy and BMW-inspired halo of LED lights around the main element, plus dark taillight lenses and 20-inch tires and a little rear spoiler.





theres gunna b HID lights for the ss nd rs!!
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