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Old 07-29-2008, 08:43 AM   #18
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^ yea after i did all my mods to my 2002 SS i was launching at 4000 rpm, i was prolly pushing that weak little 10 bolt to it max but i didnt have the car long enough to break, it. it was stolen in january and im building another garage for my baby.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:08 AM   #19
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^ yea after i did all my mods to my 2002 SS i was launching at 4000 rpm, i was prolly pushing that weak little 10 bolt to it max but i didnt have the car long enough to break, it. it was stolen in january and im building another garage for my baby.
there was a guy here that put hoosier slicks on his 10 bolt and was saying he was going to drop the clutch at 5000 rpms. he also had cam+tune and bolt ons. he was lucky nothing happened to his rear end.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #20
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I think it does what most you say, limit the revs after the launch so there is minimal wheelspin. OR I think it realizes when you are holding the clutch and have it sitting in 1st, when you rev it, it wont go past a certain rpm. I think it is the first idea though.

Launch control would have been great on the vette's because my last time at the drag strip, a guy with a spankin new LS3 with the paper dealer tag still on it was there and almost lost to a new tundra(had a 100 shot) because he dumped the clutch so hard he spun and barely moved till he shifted to 2nd by the light tree. Some people need these nannies because they get too excited or something. I would like it to help me get better at launching until I can do it as good as the comp can.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:23 PM   #21
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there was a guy here that put hoosier slicks on his 10 bolt and was saying he was going to drop the clutch at 5000 rpms. he also had cam+tune and bolt ons. he was lucky nothing happened to his rear end.
yea he would deffinetly be asking for it. i had a cam ls7 clutch and nitto drag radials and i was pushing it. I maiss that car sooo much
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:06 PM   #22
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It is said that the SS Camaro with the Manual Transmission will have Launch Control. How will this work? Everything I've seen on launch control is targeted toward Automatics wth pattle Shifters. You put the car in launch mode rev the motor and let off the break. It turns town Traction Control put the computer to allow the car to max out RPM's before shifting and just optimizes the shift points. Well it can't do all this on a Manual because you control the shift points and you control the clutch so what do they mean the SS Manual will have launch control?
You are badly misinformed. Launch control works in manual transmissions only. You simply select it (in the Cobolt SS and HHR SS) by hitting the traction control button twice, once to turn off the tracton control and the second time to turn on launch control. When you put it in 1st gear while holding the clutch in, you floor it and the RPM will stay right at the redline. When u release the clutch you take off perfectly. It takes all the guess work out of getting a perfect launch hence launch control and im almost positive no automatic cars have it but i could be wrong.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:19 PM   #23
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You are badly misinformed. Launch control works in manual transmissions only.
Not necessarily true. Maybe the Cobalt's "Launch Control" feature works like that, though it doesn't sound like it'd make a perfect launch at all; it sounds like all you'd do is burn off your tires. Anyway, without it, a modern car isn't going to go past redline anyway, but it might do a more sudden fuel cut resulting in "bouncing off the rev limiter" rather than smoothly holding redline.

The VW GTI with their DSG dual-clutch automated manual transmission (they don't offer a traditional "slushbox" automatic) has a "Launch Control" feature that allows the driver to launch like a high-RPM clutch dump even though there's no clutch pedal. That's what I thought of when I heard of "Launch Control" in the Camaro.

Who needs a computer to baby them for launching a manual transmission?
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:43 PM   #24
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Gee, when I was young we didn't touch the clutch pedal when power shifting!!!

And By the way - It is "Pedal" not "Pettle"

And it is "Brake" not "Break".... You brake with your foot, you break when you wreck your car.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:33 PM   #25
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Gee, when I was young we didn't touch the clutch pedal when power shifting!!!

And By the way - It is "Pedal" not "Pettle"

And it is "Brake" not "Break".... You brake with your foot, you break when you wreck your car.
Actually for what he was trying to say it was paddle not pedal or pettle.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:01 AM   #26
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yeah, give him a "break".

(I couldn't resist!)
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:55 AM   #27
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Season 10 Episode 3 of Top Gear the tested a Ferrari 599 with F1-SuperFast paddle shifter with Launch control in which they put the car in first turned traction off held down the break and put in launch control. Rev'ed up the motor and let off the break. The launch control on Super Cars is all i've ever seen launch control on before. And it more or less optimized the shift points or allowed for higher RPM's before shifting.
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:05 PM   #28
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I think it is very cool that GM has included launch control on the Camaro. The great thing is you don't ever have to use it if you don't want to. Does launch control work, yep, pretty well.
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:08 PM   #29
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So I don't think we've reached any consensus yet...

With launch control do you floor the gas, dump the clutch, and then the computer forces the revs to their optimal amount? Or did I completely misunderstand?
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:49 PM   #30
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The ones I've seen will hold the RPM at the optimal point, then when you release the clutch, the computer will hold the RPM at the right level to minimize wheel spin.

Not that difficult to understand. It's just the launch that it controls. Not the shifting or throttle. And if it works properly it'll be a pretty sweet system.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:22 AM   #31
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So I don't think we've reached any consensus yet...

With launch control do you floor the gas, dump the clutch, and then the computer forces the revs to their optimal amount? Or did I completely misunderstand?
I think your right. The asymetric half-shafts will reduce or eliminate wheel-hop, and the traction control should assure CONSISTENT, if not optimal launches, with computer-controlled throttle blips. The traction control should also reduce wheelspin, so your looking at some really good "hooks" -- over and over, AFAIK.

Thats good for racing.
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The traction control should also reduce wheelspin, so your looking at some really good "hooks" -- over and over, AFAIK.

Thats good for racing.
You'll need to turn traction control off for a good launch, and chances are that launch control won't even engage with traction control enabled. Traction control on every vehicle I've used it (including at least one GM) is too aggressive, slowing the engine too much to avoid any tire slippage at all, instead of just preventing smoky burnouts while allowing a little slippage.

It's my impression that most people turn off traction control for any kind of racing.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:13 AM   #33
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In the SS, can't to turn traction control to 'sport' mode? I would think it'd act as you described it should above...
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I know how to fully disable the stable track and traction control simply by holding the traction control button down for about 6 Sec
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