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Old 07-29-2008, 12:30 PM   #376
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well if there isnt one i think it would be cool if gm had a package that added a cam and supercharger and a badge
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:35 PM   #377
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So what is the final word on this????
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:13 PM   #379
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I want a 550 HP super charged car more tahan anyone on this forum but the 100% truth is it is dead!!!
Do you want a real Z28 or a blown 550hp car? You do realize that the Z's were more track cars with smaller engines, and better suspensions while the SS's had the bigger engine, right?

I think you just want the power, and could care less about the moniker.
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^The point doesn't seem to be getting across, does it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:24 PM   #381
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Do you want a real Z28 or a blown 550hp car? You do realize that the Z's were more track cars with smaller engines, and better suspensions while the SS's had the bigger engine, right?

I think you just want the power, and could care less about the moniker.
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I'm one who wants the power, and doesn't care too much about the name. I seriously don't think it's possible to trim enough weight to make it a good tribute to the original, so I think it's going to be easier to add power. I'd like to keep many of the aminities that look like comes on the SS, and I just don't think the market will support a limited production, limited content car. I don't see how GM would make money on a car that comes with less...

Supercharge it, add bigger brakes, beefier powertrain and chassis, and call it good. That's my 0.02.
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I'm one who wants the power, and doesn't care too much about the name. I seriously don't think it's possible to trim enough weight to make it a good tribute to the original, so I think it's going to be easier to add power. I'd like to keep many of the aminities that look like comes on the SS, and I just don't think the market will support a limited production, limited content car. I don't see how GM would make money on a car that comes with less...

Supercharge it, add bigger brakes, beefier powertrain and chassis, and call it good. That's my 0.02.
they could trim weight with carbon fiber, add maybe 30 more hp and a race prepped suspension. unlike the ss which has a sport tuned suspension. either way that would make for one stout z28.
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I'm one who wants the power, and doesn't care too much about the name. I seriously don't think it's possible to trim enough weight to make it a good tribute to the original, so I think it's going to be easier to add power. I'd like to keep many of the aminities that look like comes on the SS, and I just don't think the market will support a limited production, limited content car. I don't see how GM would make money on a car that comes with less...

Supercharge it, add bigger brakes, beefier powertrain and chassis, and call it good. That's my 0.02.

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they could trim weight with carbon fiber, add maybe 30 more hp and a race prepped suspension. unlike the ss which has a sport tuned suspension. either way that would make for one stout z28.
I can totally understand where you're coming from, but who's going to pay for all that carbon fiber? Have you read the clearcoat for the exposed carbon fiber on the ZR1 costs like $60K a gallon and there's another additive that's like $2K a quart or something so the carbon fiber doesn't break down from UV light? I don't want to pay $50K+ for a Super Camaro and I think adding power will just be easier.

Like you said, either way will work
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What happened to a Z28 campaign thread anyways?... I'll have to check into that.
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I can totally understand where you're coming from, but who's going to pay for all that carbon fiber? Have you read the clearcoat for the exposed carbon fiber on the ZR1 costs like $60K a gallon and there's another additive that's like $2K a quart or something so the carbon fiber doesn't break down from UV light? I don't want to pay $50K+ for a Super Camaro and I think adding power will just be easier.

Like you said, either way will work
the only reason it costs that much for painting it is because they are leaving it exposed. I don't want my carbon fiber exposed I want it painted. lol.

but I do believe that a lot of people will be disappointed if the z28 doesn't have 500+ hp. and honestly i would be slightly but would be completely happy with a race tuned suspension and 50 more hp.
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Haha! No it isn't.
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Hey dude I have an SS, come check it out. SS What?

Hey dude I have a Z28, come check it out. Bad ass let me see it!
Ed-zackery, I'll put some retro Z/28 badges on it. Badges? did someone say badges? A more contemporary badge would be fitting but this will do.
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What happened to a Z28 campaign thread anyways?... I'll have to check into that.
Merged? I haven't looked through this to see. Maybe the evil shunt captors deleted it as part of a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 5th Gen Z28.
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Merged? I haven't looked through this to see. Maybe the evil shunt captors deleted it as part of a conspiracy to hide the truth of the 5th Gen Z28.


Yeah, I know mine was merged with yours, but I don't know if yours ended up getting merged into this one (I think it has because of how high the post count is.)

Maybe we could persuade a Mod' to start another thread strickly dedicated to our ideas of demonstrating our support and humble suggestions of what we think a Z28 (or other moniker) should be.
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Yeah, I know mine was merged with yours, but I don't know if yours ended up getting merged into this one (I think it has because of how high the post count is.)

Maybe we could persuade a Mod' to start another thread strickly dedicated to our ideas of demonstrating our support and humble suggestions of what we think a Z28 (or other moniker) should be.
already tried because of all the new threads that had been started. they saidif it continues the y were probably going to have a locked sticky stating it wasn't dead and quoting fbodfather.
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^I do remember seeing that.

I think we can keep an eye on this thread to both keep the rumors to a minimum and propose what the Z28 might me. I'm sure from the Mods perspective, with all the increased traffic around here, they'd rather have one thread to monitor.

So, with that,

I know there is the blown test mule out there somewhere... But, I'm really interested in a Touring version, like the first gen Z28, without an LSA-like power plant. That would make it a much tougher decision between the ss and the Z28. I don't really need or want all the creature comforts. Of course I'd have to change my cutomization plans... Paint would definitely by out.... Interesting.
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^I do remember seeing that.

I think we can keep an eye on this thread to both keep the rumors to a minimum and propose what the Z28 might me. I'm sure from the Mods perspective, with all the increased traffic around here, they'd rather have one thread to monitor.

So, with that,

I know there is the blown test mule out there somewhere... But, I'm really interested in a Touring version, like the first gen Z28, without an LSA-like power plant. That would make it a much tougher decision between the ss and the Z28. I don't really need or want all the creature comforts. Of course I'd have to change my cutomization plans... Paint would definitely by out.... Interesting.

ok where's this test mule that had a supercharger on it? post up a vid or pic? I keep hearing about it but the only video i've seen referenced is a video in the mountains that was from two guys in a mustang that was supercharged. and people were swearing up and down that the camaro had the charger, but yea. . .

all I'm saying is convince me there's one out here.
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It was verified by the guys who whent to the proving grounds in phoenix. They got a chance to talk to some of the drivers/engineers and they said one of the cars they were testing was supercharged. That seems to be the most credible source cited regarding the mysterious blown 5th gen.

I'll look for it and guote it here.
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It was verified by the guys who whent to the proving grounds in phoenix. They got a chance to talk to some of the drivers/engineers and they said one of the cars they were testing was supercharged. That seems to be the most credible source cited regarding the mysterious blown 5th gen.

I'll look for it and guote it here.
ok cool. I must have missed that some how.
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wow! awesome! kinda disappointed to hear about the supercharger, but that's just me. i prefer after-market s/c. oh well, good 2 hear about the weight! in a sense, this is a lot more valuable than pics! now the only question is: 3 engines? 4 turbo, 6, 8; 4 turbo, 6, 8 s/c; 6, 8, 8 s/c????? and just cuz they've seen those engines doesn't mean they will all make it to production. just my $.02
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nice to have assurance on the supercharger. that model will sure to be marked up 10k for a year and low production. even if they make it large production I can't see it stickering for under 38k. seems like you didn't get too many answers out of em but I bet it was kick ass just getting to see em up close. If I recall the gt500 dosn't do all that well when it comes to dyno runs and track handling. so says top gear but clarkson is bias against american cars
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diarmadhi, thank you for that very detailed write up!!! You are to be commended, sir!

Punchy, I can't even begin to thank you enough for putting forth this effort and taking these folks out for the tour. I mean really....that was very kind of you.

I could only imagine the great memories that were made today...vette ride doing 360's and drifting?? Dang! But, getting to see 3 black prepros out there!?! Now...why do ya'll think there was one completely covered up..... I'm guessing V6, V8, V8 SC...one for each black prepro. And...someone mentioned supercharger??? huh??? what have I been saying?!?!?! Something that really makes me happy is that Bluetooth... I could use that all the time. Ah....and that's what the thing was on the dash!!! A speaker! Cool deal....sounds like we are going to have some 5.1 surround sound in this bad boy. Did you see a label w/ type of speaker?

Guys, you all are so lucky...living out there and getting to take part in something as cool as this. And, as much as I'd like to see pix, thanks for being honest and respectful to Punchy. Congratulations, guys. And, it really is that much better in person!
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This kinda talk leads me to think that we might be seeing a monster engine in the top end V8. CTS-V engine anyone???
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one word.. SUPERCHARGER!!

So, something noteworthy....

As I was searching this thread I found many posts referring to the supercharged GT-500 killer.... But, I can't find the quote anywhere. Now, Scott has recently said that they have been working on a Z28, in one of his many "The Z28 isn't dead" posts.

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........We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name.

We don't talk about future products -- but what makes you think we haven't been doing work on something?????

I can't say more than that......other than:

"KEEP THE FAITH" --

I can't lie to you guys -- because if I do, I will have zero credibility......and I don't plan on going anywhere anytime soon -- you're stuck with my ugly mug.


My best guess, based on edited posts, is that GM asked for the original quote referring to the supercharged mule be removed shortly after it was posted.

Hopefully this isn't such a corporate secret anymore in light of Scott's quoted post above.

Oh yeah, here's one more relevant post from the proving grounds tour thread.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=19
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yea I know what Fbodfather has said. I just missed the whole supercharger actually confirmed thread.

only reason I'm still faithful about the Z is what fbodfather has said.
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^I do remember seeing that.

I think we can keep an eye on this thread to both keep the rumors to a minimum and propose what the Z28 might me. I'm sure from the Mods perspective, with all the increased traffic around here, they'd rather have one thread to monitor.

So, with that,

I know there is the blown test mule out there somewhere... But, I'm really interested in a Touring version, like the first gen Z28, without an LSA-like power plant. That would make it a much tougher decision between the ss and the Z28. I don't really need or want all the creature comforts. Of course I'd have to change my cutomization plans... Paint would definitely by out.... Interesting.
That exaclty states what I've been thinking but haven't really been able to articulate! I don't really want a stripped down racer, but I want something that is going to cruise nice, and kick the rear end out everytime I think about stepping on the skinny pedal. That was EXACTLY it.

Maybe we were separated at birth, LOL!!!
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I wish I was wrong! I will donate every one of my Camaro's to charity if I am not telling the truth!!! I know everyone wants proof, but proof gets people fired at GM! I want a 550 HP super charged car more tahan anyone on this forum but the 100% truth is it is dead!!!


i am waiting on an official word from scott.
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Once that's done....................
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