ADM Race Intake IAT Test (VIDEO AND SCAN LOG - STEP INSIDE) - Camaro Forum - 2011 Camaro 2010 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums

freemaSSon · 11-03-2009, 09:30 AM

I recorded this video of the ADM Race Intake to demonstrate the benefits of the included Air Scoop that channels air into the air box. Attached is the HPTuners scan log.

The reaction to the quality of the air fed to the air box even surprised us. The scan log shows that the idling IAT's reached 72 degrees before I even started moving. CASUALLY reaching 52 mph the IAT's were 57 degrees in 54 degree Ambient temps. The log shows that at 61 mph the IAT's were 55 degrees in 54 degree Ambient temps.

What does all this mean? As soon as the car starts moving you are getting near ambient air to the filter. The colder the air ingested by the engine has a direct relationship to power. In the automotive performance engineering world it is readily accepted that for every 10 degrees the combustion cycle is reduced you gain 1% power.

This colder air temp effect is the reason your car feels better in the cold winter air. Or it seems to feel better at night than in the heat of the day. The reason is the air temps in the combustion cycle are lower thus making more power.

The engineering behind the air scoop was to channel the absolute best air temps directly into the air box.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ADMBUILT.../0/p6n8FH5pQsY

themossman · 11-03-2009, 09:55 AM

Is the price on your site correct for this part? $600?

freemaSSon · 11-03-2009, 10:14 AM

YES

$499 for the Strret
$599 for the Race (which requires deleting the water bottle in order to install the Air Scoop)

Evil Trailblazer SS · 11-04-2009, 01:20 AM

Good research brother! You and Andy keep up the good work!

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-04-2009, 10:31 PM

Good data Pat.

Still would like to show more Data in the future.

Andy

JHart · 11-04-2009, 10:34 PM

in the race kit is there a relocation kit for the wiper resovoir??? or does it delete it completely??

Kodiak Ak · 11-04-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JHart

in the race kit is there a relocation kit for the wiper resovoir??? or does it delete it completely??

Answer

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50419

themossman · 11-05-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by freemaSSon

YES

$499 for the Strret
$599 for the Race (which requires deleting the water bottle in order to install the Air Scoop)

...I hate to say it...but that's pricey (and I'm not cheap).

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-05-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by themossman

...I hate to say it...but that's pricey (and I'm not cheap).

I agree that it is very pricey.

Andy

rharon · 11-05-2009, 11:33 PM

What is the temp without the air scoop?

Rallyman6 · 11-05-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rharon

What is the temp without the air scoop?

good question

freemaSSon · 11-06-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rharon

What is the temp without the air scoop?

None of the cars I have access to have a Street Version.

I will work to get access to a car and repeat the test with the Street Version.

Crowley · 11-06-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by freemaSSon

None of the cars I have access to have a Street Version.

I will work to get access to a car and repeat the test with the Street Version.

Just put it on your car and log it .. you have access to your car right

Crowley

freemaSSon · 11-06-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

Just put it on your car and log it .. you have access to your car right

Crowley

When have you crawled under yours to change the intake?

My point exactly.

I'm too damn lazy. My intention was to demonstrate the benefit of the RACE SCOOP and the Street version has no RACE SCOOP so it is kind of counter productive to have the Street Lid and water bottle on my car.

Crowley · 11-06-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freemaSSon

When have you crawled under yours to change the intake?

My point exactly.

I'm too damn lazy. My intention was to demonstrate the benefit of the RACE SCOOP and the Street version has no RACE SCOOP so it is kind of counter productive to have the Street Lid and water bottle on my car.

hmmm don't you work there? Just do it .. who cares how lazy you are.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-07-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

hmmm don't you work there? Just do it .. who cares how lazy you are.

Yes he works there,I dont give him time to work on his car during business hours...Kinda Busy these days

Andy

freemaSSon · 11-07-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

hmmm don't you work there? Just do it .. who cares how lazy you are.

OK. The reason for all the data and the video is we were unfortunately handicapped during Ted's testing of all the intakes. We sent both Street and Race versions.

The owner of the car opted not to have the air break in the front grill modified. We can surely appreciate his position. We offered to pay for a new air damn and even allow him to keep the Race Intake for 100% free and he could keep it or sell it. The owner was not willing and this was unfortunate for us so I have set out to get the FACTS about our Race Version out there.

With all these factors involved we felt compelled to put some more data out related to our Race Version ESPECIALLY since other vendors were stating it was not worth wasting your time trying to get Ambient air temps to the engine and our Race Version can even hit Ambient but it is typically at 1 degree of separation around 60+ mph. So by second gear on the track the car is getting within 1 degree of the Ambient air.

Crowley · 11-07-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freemaSSon

OK. The reason for all the data and the video is we were unfortunately handicapped during Ted's testing of all the intakes. We sent both Street and Race versions.

The owner of the car opted not to have the air break in the front grill modified. We can surely appreciate his position. We offered to pay for a new air damn and even allow him to keep the Race Intake for 100% free and he could keep it or sell it. The owner was not willing and this was unfortunate for us so I have set out to get the FACTS about our Race Version out there.

With all these factors involved we felt compelled to put some more data out related to our Race Version ESPECIALLY since other vendors were stating it was not worth wasting your time trying to get Ambient air temps to the engine and our Race Version can even hit Ambient but it is typically at 1 degree of separation around 60+ mph. So by second gear on the track the car is getting within 1 degree of the Ambient air.

Dude .. you could have done the other test with the amount of time you took to write this post

Just busting your balls man !!!!! .. when you want to do a street version and record some data on a supercharged car ... ping me and you can do that

Crowley

Crowley · 11-07-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

Yes he works there,I dont give him time to work on his car during business hours...Kinda Busy these days

Andy

LOL ... that is a good thing !!!!

rharon · 11-09-2009, 11:15 PM

Any temp difference?

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-10-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rharon

Any temp difference?

4-6 degrees difference.

Andy

CWIweldace · 11-10-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by freemaSSon

OK. The reason for all the data and the video is we were unfortunately handicapped during Ted's testing of all the intakes. We sent both Street and Race versions.

The owner of the car opted not to have the air break in the front grill modified. We can surely appreciate his position. We offered to pay for a new air damn and even allow him to keep the Race Intake for 100% free and he could keep it or sell it. The owner was not willing and this was unfortunate for us so I have set out to get the FACTS about our Race Version out there.

With all these factors involved we felt compelled to put some more data out related to our Race Version ESPECIALLY since other vendors were stating it was not worth wasting your time trying to get Ambient air temps to the engine and our Race Version can even hit Ambient but it is typically at 1 degree of separation around 60+ mph. So by second gear on the track the car is getting within 1 degree of the Ambient air.

Would like to see how the others stack up to this, since, afterall, that is the purpose of a cold air intake. I'd be willing to bet that none of the competition is within 20 degrees of ambient without a frontal scoop to collect ambient air and direct it to the filter.

Crowley · 11-11-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CWIweldace

Would like to see how the others stack up to this, since, afterall, that is the purpose of a cold air intake. I'd be willing to bet that none of the competition is within 20 degrees of ambient without a frontal scoop to collect ambient air and direct it to the filter.

I think with the testing being done by a company recently, there were a few that were around the same or a little better than the ADM setup. It was those and the ADM that would be recommended by that company and I believe has been.

Crowley

ADM PERFORMANCE · 11-11-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowley

I think with the testing being done by a company recently, there were a few that were around the same or a little better than the ADM setup. It was those and the ADM that would be recommended by that company and I believe has been.

Crowley

Very true,But our race version did not get tested.

Andy

I think there may be another test coming soon,but don't qoute me!

CWIweldace · 11-15-2009, 05:13 PM

I took my car in on friday to do a baseline dyno and then get cam transplant. The first pull was 377HP. Then we opened the OEM intake to let more air in, next pull was around 385, this car was starving for air and running rich, about 12 to 1. Then we decided to see what it would do with the ADM intake in the engine bay without the box, this way the MAF was in the tube and not in the box. Next pull was 399. This shows how hungry this engine is for air, I also have ARH headers and 3" Flowmasters to the tips.

The cam is going in on monday and tuesday as well as the ADM race version installed complete. Our tuner will be back on wednesday to finish the job. I'm hoping to get enough pics to help CamaroSpike with his DIY cam page he wants to do on Camaro5. I wil be posting a few pics myself.

11-03-2009, 09:55 AM	#2
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11-03-2009, 10:14 AM	#3
freemaSSon Pat @ ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: CGM SS/RS M6 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 408	YES $499 for the Strret $599 for the Race (which requires deleting the water bottle in order to install the Air Scoop) __________________ "old age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition" author unknown "There are two types of racers: cheaters...and losers." Smokey Yunick

11-04-2009, 10:34 PM	#6
JHart Drives: 2004 Chevrolet Colorado Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Union, South Carolina Posts: 558	in the race kit is there a relocation kit for the wiper resovoir??? or does it delete it completely?? __________________ 2010 silverado z71 ccsb(new dd) 2010 camaro1ss(sold, missed, will have another someday)

11-05-2009, 11:33 PM	#10
rharon Drives: 2010 Yellow 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fresno / Clovis , CA Posts: 332 View My Garage	What is the temp without the air scoop? __________________ Magnacharger TVS2300, ARH HEADERS, ROTO-FAB CAI, NOWEEDS.NET DIVERTERS

11-09-2009, 11:15 PM	#20
rharon Drives: 2010 Yellow 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fresno / Clovis , CA Posts: 332 View My Garage	Any temp difference? __________________ Magnacharger TVS2300, ARH HEADERS, ROTO-FAB CAI, NOWEEDS.NET DIVERTERS

11-04-2009, 01:20 AM	#4
Evil Trailblazer SS Fastest AWD TBSS! Drives: Procharged 2006 Trailblazer SS AWD Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 14	Good research brother! You and Andy keep up the good work!

11-04-2009, 10:31 PM	#5
ADM PERFORMANCE 214-228-8782 Drives: 2011 BUILT JUNE 4 2010 #543 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DfW - Texas Posts: 1,643	Good data Pat. Still would like to show more Data in the future. Andy

11-15-2009, 05:13 PM	#25
CWIweldace Happy Camaro Driver Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,LS3 2006 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NW Oregon Posts: 1,724 View My Garage	I took my car in on friday to do a baseline dyno and then get cam transplant. The first pull was 377HP. Then we opened the OEM intake to let more air in, next pull was around 385, this car was starving for air and running rich, about 12 to 1. Then we decided to see what it would do with the ADM intake in the engine bay without the box, this way the MAF was in the tube and not in the box. Next pull was 399. This shows how hungry this engine is for air, I also have ARH headers and 3" Flowmasters to the tips. The cam is going in on monday and tuesday as well as the ADM race version installed complete. Our tuner will be back on wednesday to finish the job. I'm hoping to get enough pics to help CamaroSpike with his DIY cam page he wants to do on Camaro5. I wil be posting a few pics myself. __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!"