01-30-2024, 11:37 AM | #15 |
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But they are also all in in PHEV vehicles as well, and it's serving them very well.
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01-30-2024, 11:49 AM | #16 |
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Stringent CAFE standards kick into effect next year and in 2030 with the end game set for 2035. By 2030 the goals is 58mpg so the realistic choice is hybrid and hydrogen. By 35 the choice will be no cars or so few you won't be able to own one and if you do they will tell you when and how much electricity or hydrogen you are allowed. The goal is not to save the planet the end game is for one class to control and you're not in it. DAVOS has already given the command to eliminate fossil fuels and automobiles.
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I was really intrigued by the use of regular gasoline supplemented with hydrogen. They found that using hydrogen as a supplemental fuel cleaned up the emissions quite a bit and increased mileage at the same time. It made me wonder if it might be possible to eliminate catalysts in a car because the emissions were lowered so much. Fuel economy in both gas and diesel vehicles is hurt by the need to add extra fuel to make the system work. In OTR trucks for example, it costs 1MPG. Not much if it was a car, but for a OTR Truck that gets 7MPG, thats huge! |
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GM still brought home $10 Billion in profit last year. Clearly they're doing something right even if they're considering a minor shift in strategy. It comes at a time when the stock market is nearing record highs, unemployment is extremely low and job creation is very high still, and wages are seeing good growth.
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Wow. You drank the cool aid.. you must not buy groceries. The economy is not well. The job growth is not real it just rebound from covid not real growth. Unemployment is low cause no one wants to work and job seekers are not collecting anymore they are living of other handouts. |
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Relatively good wage growth and the stock market nearing all-time highs is a pretty good indicator things are rolling right along. Did you also happen to see the recent GDP growth for Q4? 3.2%. Amazing. |
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As for the CNG, my primary comments are about the standard vehicles... not only are they better for the environment compared to EV, there's already numerous vehicles running CNG now. These vehicles while not perfect, already provide less pollution and similar or better MPG to a standard gas powered car/truck. Not in every situation, but in most. California has already mandated EV only in about 10 years.... I expect some other places will too...
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Also you need to explain how CNG is better than an EV. And if you research it you will find CNG is not more efficient than gas. And no one has mandated EVs. What has been mandated is zero emission vehicles. The best way to do that happens to be EV. FCEV would meet that as well. But from the OEMs EVs are the best way to meet ZEV requirements. So the government isn’t mandating EVs, the car companies are simply acknowledging EVs are the best way to achieve this.
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[QUOTE=Number 3;11400098]And you’ve just hit on the biggest fallacy in the anti EV crowd. We are 30 years from being 100% EV. And you have to assume no improvements will be made when in fact improvements are ongoing. Just stop with this. Of course todays grid can’t handle the EVs in 2050. We all agree. But when upgrades are now in progress and will continue to be made it will keep up.
Also you need to explain how CNG is better than an EV. And if you research it you will find CNG is not more efficient than gas. And no one has mandated EVs. What has been mandated is zero emission vehicles. The best way to do that happens to be EV. FCEV would meet that as well. But from the OEMs EVs are the best way to meet ZEV requirements. So the government isn’t mandating EVs, the car companies are simply acknowledging EVs are the best way to If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck.... |
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I couldnt care less about California's unrealistic and unattainable zero emission goals. But hey, if they want to continue down the path to burning the state down and forcing people to live in the dark all while China dumps ACTUAL pollution into the atmosphere, more power to them. I lived in California in the 70's and 80's. I remember what LA's air quality used to be. When I was there in 2000 and again in 2019, it was clear that the pollution battle was won. Like any movement that has outlived its usefulness and wants to survive, the absurdity of CO2 as a pollutant came about as life support. At any rate, someone better face reality and get to building the hundreds of nuclear power plants that are gonna be needed to replace all the hydroelectric and fossil fuel power generation thats slated to be eliminated. |
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