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Old 08-21-2008, 10:37 PM   #51
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guys nothin for nothin it's not that impressive to me I was expecting an air-dam & maybe a wing on the deck.
That was discussed actually, and Lutz and the team made the wise decision to not do a wing. Let the 4,000 versions of the Mustang and the Lancers have their wing, keep things subtle and sweet on our car.

I think his line of thinking was something along the lines of "do you see big wings on BMW or Cadillac"...I remember reading the quote in a couple of articles and fist-pumped.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:42 PM   #52
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guys nothin for nothin it's not that impressive to me I was expecting an air-dam & maybe a wing on the deck.
im glad no wing
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:54 PM   #53
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Don't take the 30k as gospel, its just Edmunds' estimate.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:04 PM   #54
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Why don't people like the SS bumper? I love it...it sets the SS apart from the V6. And I really hope that it is $30K because I want that 400 hp
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:07 PM   #55
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oh yeah and I like big wings and ground effects kits...I hope thats an option thats not too expensive
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:12 PM   #56
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Hmmmm, under $30k huh... wonder if I can sneak an SS under the 'wife radar' then?

If that's the case, I wonder what the lower rated 39x bhp V8 will come in at?
Probably the same, or more. The 390ish HP L99 is the V8 with an auto, which usually costs around $800 over the manual transmission on other GM cars. Both are still SS trim. Remember, more power does not necessarily equal more cost.

Nothing too shocking here. We've seen the SS look before and I'm sure many if not most of us were expecting the SS to sticker right around $30K. I know I was estimating a starting price for the SS around $29K with a loaded example around $35-37K, depending on what options are actually available.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:17 PM   #57
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i think its funny that other magazines and websites can make estimates and people would berate them but then edmonds makes a lowball guess and people start acting like its gospel

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remember no prices till much later in the year.
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Old 08-21-2008, 11:38 PM   #58
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Well Edmunds does carry a lot of weight. They're pretty much the auto industry experts, doing everything from new car reviews to pricing strategies to market analysis to used car appraisal. In fact they're the source for a number of auto-media outlets. They're usually pretty reliable, so even though that number is not at all official, I think we can trust it a little more than other numbers that have been thrown out before.
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:05 AM   #59
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Well Edmunds does carry a lot of weight. They're pretty much the auto industry experts, doing everything from new car reviews to pricing strategies to market analysis to used car appraisal. In fact they're the source for a number of auto-media outlets. They're usually pretty reliable, so even though that number is not at all official, I think we can trust it a little more than other numbers that have been thrown out before.
Just like we can trust their driving numbers.
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:09 AM   #60
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The SS looks too squarish in the front for me what happend to the more round concept ???? I think the RS looks better and I think a lot of other people agree...
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:29 AM   #61
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^^^ The question is if the RS/SS would look different from the SS?
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:40 AM   #62
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i believe he meant the v6 looked better
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Old 08-22-2008, 12:40 AM   #63
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:20 AM   #64
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Old 08-22-2008, 02:26 AM   #65
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Now list the final accessory list so I can get my money right!
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Old 08-22-2008, 04:32 AM   #66
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Question Competitive Pricing

Since day one the word has been that the camaro pricing would be competitive with the mustang...so with that sad..i cant help but wonder why would the camaro ss which will be around at least 100 more hp than the mustang GT only run about a thousand more...and then consider that a charger srt is easily over 40k pushing 425 hp...i would be the happiest guy on the planet if its around 30k but is it just me or does this not seem that realistic?
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:23 AM   #67
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I think the SS badge would look better where the bowtie is on the front, and it should be bigger.
YES YES YES. The SS should have an SS in the middle of the grill NOT a bowtie, like the old SS cars.
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Old 08-22-2008, 05:54 AM   #68
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Is the rocker panel treatment new or did I just not notice it on the black SS?
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:07 AM   #69
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Nice Post.
Great car. I want one.
No Spoiler on the rear deck????? No RS treatment?????
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:24 AM   #70
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^^^ The question is if the RS/SS would look different from the SS?
probably. The RS/SS will have the Halo lights, and the deeper rear lights. I wonder how much the RS package will cost... I really want those deep rear lights.
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This may be a repost but, I don't like the SS bumper
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:41 AM   #72
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This may be a repost but, I don't like the SS bumper
yes that is a repost, and has been posterd thousands of times.
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:45 AM   #73
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I usually don't like silver, but for some reason I keep envisioning a silver Camaro with a large single blue stripe.

$30k is acceptable. It's just a touch more than the premium Mustang GT, but it has enough in features to justify it. However, let's hope the mainstream public realizes it as well; at a glance, people will notice first that this costs more than the Mustang. Again, if I were GM I'd give it a bare bones trim that came in at exactly or a bit below the bare bones Mustang GT, but I'm very glad they didn't shoot themselves in the foot by assigning it a price tag over 30k.

That's assuming this information is reliable; this is Edmunds after all.

Not to mention the extra 100+ bhp, FE3 suspension (eqaul to the Ford Racing Handling Package which is 2k extra), and 6 speed transmissions standard.
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30k i got say that price just blew me away, i would defiantly go for a camaro, 30k for a camaro, that got nearly less 2hp than the challenger SRT-8, for 10k less, better designed, better looking interior, and i think is faster as well for just 30k, im still amazed how GM, could do it all for 30k.

But it kinda sucks, that you have to pay around 120-150k dollars here in denmark, to get your camaro, 30k for the camaro, and the rest is taxes
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Since day one the word has been that the camaro pricing would be competitive with the mustang...so with that sad..i cant help but wonder why would the camaro ss which will be around at least 100 more hp than the mustang GT only run about a thousand more...and then consider that a charger srt is easily over 40k pushing 425 hp...i would be the happiest guy on the planet if its around 30k but is it just me or does this not seem that realistic?
I agree completely, GM has said "priced competitively" and I have to think comparitively as well. A solid axle 300hp Mustang GT = 425hp IRS RS/SS Camaro? From Ford.com website the Mustang prices are as follows; Ford Mustang 2009 Vehicle Comparison Printable Report Ford Vehicles.pdf

Base V6 -----------------------$19,735.00 210hp
V6 Premium ------------------ $21,735.00 210hp
V6 Pony Pk --------------------$22,485.00 210hp
GT------------------------------$26,425.00 300hp
Gt Plus-------------------------$28,375.00 300hp
Shelby GT500 -----------------$42,685.00 500hp
Shelby GT500KR --------------$79,995.00 540hp est.

You decide what you think is realistic, I truly hope and pray that the RS/SS comes in at 29K. I believe, IMHO, it will probably come in somewhere between the GT Plus and the GT500 and closer to the GT500 for the RS/SS. Your definitely getting more than the GT Plus in the SS but you may be getting slightly less than the GT500 with the RS/SS. I say less only from a hp stand point, overall the Camaro brings much more to the table.

I sure hope that if this logic is correct that the Z28 isn't priced competitively with the GT500KR
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